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Old January 19 2009, 03:19 PM   #1
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How to find the Final Fifth Cylon now? Spoilers up to 4.11

How will Ellen re-enter the realm of existence in Galactica's universe?

As she said to Saul, that they will be born together again sometimes later in Saul's memory/vision on "Earth", it occurred to me, that she already has been born at the same time as Saul has been reborn.

But not that she's dead, killed by her "soul mate", how can she be contacted/found now?

As we know until now, the Final Five have another, still unclear, method of resurrection than the seven Cylons with all their technology.

Maybe the beings that brought back Kara, could bring Ellen back too.

But who are they? Are they from the Ship of Lights (a concept I'm not so familiar with, as I haven't seen all of the old Galactica series)?
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Old January 19 2009, 03:20 PM   #2
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Re: How to find the Final Fifth Cylon now? Spoilers up to 4.11

maybe Kara is a re-born Ellen?
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Old January 19 2009, 04:18 PM   #3
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Re: How to find the Final Fifth Cylon now? Spoilers up to 4.11

I'm not convinced that she actually died on New Caprica. She may have gone into a coma and was found by the Cylons later.
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Old January 19 2009, 04:55 PM   #4
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Re: How to find the Final Fifth Cylon now? Spoilers up to 4.11

She had to have died I don't think Tigh would be that sloppy with the murder of his wife. IF they are going to include the SoL in the show beyond a blurry picture on a wall then maybe the FF are the crew and it resurrected Ellen?
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Old January 19 2009, 06:44 PM   #5
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Oh, I'm not saying he didn't poison her. I just don't think that the poison killed her.
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Old January 19 2009, 11:54 PM   #6
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I'm betting Saul sends a "Sharon" back to New Caprica to go take a check on Ellen.

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Old January 20 2009, 12:55 AM   #7
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Maybe she just resurrected after she died, although D'Anna didn't know about her, so that would need some explanation.

Ellen does have a knack for surviving certain death, though.
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Old January 20 2009, 01:04 AM   #8
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I think that everyone is thinking too small. And that the Final Five have some sort of immortality that is way beyond anything we have seen so far.
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Old January 20 2009, 05:14 AM   #9
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Re: How to find the Final Fifth Cylon now? Spoilers up to 4.11

Considering Ellen appeared out of nowhere--no records, no passenger logs, no memories of her first few weeks in the fleet--in "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down," she may already have resurrected once in whatever way the Final Five have. It won't be hard for her to show up again.
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Old January 20 2009, 09:52 AM   #10
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Re: How to find the Final Fifth Cylon now? Spoilers up to 4.11

Gep Malakai wrote: View Post
Considering Ellen appeared out of nowhere--no records, no passenger logs, no memories of her first few weeks in the fleet--in "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down," she may already have resurrected once in whatever way the Final Five have. It won't be hard for her to show up again.
I think that makes a lot of sense. Maybe Ellen actually DID die in the original Cylon attack on the Colonies.

EDIT: For that matter, for all we know Anders did as well. We know he SUPPOSEDLY was on Caprica that whole time, but still. He could have resurrected and then started his rebellion against the Seven.
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Old January 21 2009, 12:33 AM   #11
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Re: How to find the Final Fifth Cylon now? Spoilers up to 4.11

Yeah, but Anders had the rest of the Caprica Buccaneers along with him, and Sue-Shaun, at least, was definitely human.
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Old January 21 2009, 03:59 PM   #12
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I think that everyone is thinking too small. And that the Final Five have some sort of immortality that is way beyond anything we have seen so far.
Exactly. They have lived for 2000 years, after all, and without a "resurrection ship" that we know of.
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Old January 21 2009, 11:48 PM   #13
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Gep Malakai wrote: View Post
Considering Ellen appeared out of nowhere--no records, no passenger logs, no memories of her first few weeks in the fleet--in "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down," she may already have resurrected once in whatever way the Final Five have. It won't be hard for her to show up again.
I had the same thought.

If she is shown to have been resurrected, I hope the writers will make a reference back to Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down. Hell, she and Starbuck may have been resurrected by the same means.
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Old January 22 2009, 12:37 AM   #14
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Re: How to find the Final Fifth Cylon now? Spoilers up to 4.11

Lets assume its Starbuck in the viper... and i think that's fair, you'd assume that she would recognize herself. Then there is both recent (3 months?) proven resurrection activity + building a brand new viper, and older (2000 years) resurrection activity, of which Ellen seemed to organize.

There's an actor here that is not yet revealed and that is not Ellen. The person who resurrected Starbuck / pushed the various head 6s and head people / and of course, managed to have the nebula sing a Bob Dylan song. Someone is orchestrating key events... Cylon god perhaps.
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Old January 22 2009, 03:40 AM   #15
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What if Ellen is possessing Caprica six's body???
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