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Old June 20 2012, 11:51 PM   #931
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Re: "John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

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Let's return to the discussion about a semi-lame version of John Carter OF MOTHERFLIPPIN' MARS.
Very good idea.
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Old June 20 2012, 11:55 PM   #932
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Let's return to the discussion about a semi-lame version of John Carter OF MOTHERFLIPPIN' MARS.
The movie was just called John Carter.
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Old June 21 2012, 01:06 AM   #933
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But, if it had been called John Carter of Motherflipin' Mars, Samuel L. Jackson could have done promos. The movie would have been a monster hit!

Despite the imperfections in the script, they were nothing to the imperfections in the Barsoom novels. These guys did an amazing job to make something as musty as that into a rather entertaining movie that didn't just grossly pander to
overgrown thirteen year boys. You wish people would appreciate what an achievement the script was, so much more impressive than others. But all that really got reviewed is the budget, the marketing and the box office.
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Old June 21 2012, 02:37 AM   #934
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Oh give it up Star Trek was not a bad movie. It was certainly better than the majority of Trek films to date.
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Old June 21 2012, 03:34 AM   #935
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Oh give it up Star Trek was not a bad movie. It was certainly better than the majority of Trek films to date.
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Old June 21 2012, 05:02 AM   #936
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Despite the imperfections in the script, they were nothing to the imperfections in the Barsoom novels.
I still don't understand why the movie was made in the first place and why it's so important to the geek community. The Barsoom series always felt liked a bad hybrid of Conan the Barbarian and Flash Gordon (yes I know PoM came first). I mean no one is rushing to make a Scarlet Pimpernel movie even though it's the first example of a modern superhero and influenced everybody from Zorro to Batman.

John Carter reminds me of "Le Morte d'Arthur". Both were very influential in their day but both are utterly worthless now because they are not very "artistic" and their anachronisms hold them back.
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Old June 21 2012, 10:14 AM   #937
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Despite the imperfections in the script, they were nothing to the imperfections in the Barsoom novels.
I still don't understand why the movie was made in the first place and why it's so important to the geek community. The Barsoom series always felt liked a bad hybrid of Conan the Barbarian and Flash Gordon (yes I know PoM came first). I mean no one is rushing to make a Scarlet Pimpernel movie even though it's the first example of a modern superhero and influenced everybody from Zorro to Batman.

John Carter reminds me of "Le Morte d'Arthur". Both were very influential in their day but both are utterly worthless now because they are not very "artistic" and their anachronisms hold them back.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I've been aware of the Mars/Barsoom books since the '70s but then didn't yet know how old they already were and their pedigree.

Why do we still bother with Sherlock Holmes to Tarzan or Frankenstein or Dracula or ancient myths?
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Old June 21 2012, 01:20 PM   #938
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John Carter reminds me of "Le Morte d'Arthur". Both were very influential in their day but both are utterly worthless now because they are not very "artistic" and their anachronisms hold them back.
Get a note off to BBC (and SyFy) right away, they've already wasted money on The Adventures of Merlin for 4 Series and working on a Fifth (And possibly more and/or a movie)
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Old June 21 2012, 03:05 PM   #939
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Why do we still bother with Sherlock Holmes to Tarzan or Frankenstein or Dracula or ancient myths?
Because they are constantly updated and reinterpreted. I remember reading the original Frankenstein and being totally shocked that it's nothing like the movies I saw as a kid. Granted unlike PoM, Frankenstein feels very modern but that's a testament to Shelly's abilities as a writer.
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Old June 21 2012, 03:09 PM   #940
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John Carter reminds me of "Le Morte d'Arthur". Both were very influential in their day but both are utterly worthless now because they are not very "artistic" and their anachronisms hold them back.
Get a note off to BBC (and SyFy) right away, they've already wasted money on The Adventures of Merlin for 4 Series and working on a Fifth (And possibly more and/or a movie)
"Le Morte d'Arthur" is a SPECIFIC book. I did not imply that the whole Arthurian legend is outdated since it's been reinterpreted for modern times. Shakespeare is another example. It's getting harder and harder to teach it to students but his themes still survive in modern works.
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Old June 21 2012, 04:39 PM   #941
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John Carter reminds me of "Le Morte d'Arthur". Both were very influential in their day but both are utterly worthless now because they are not very "artistic" and their anachronisms hold them back.
Get a note off to BBC (and SyFy) right away, they've already wasted money on The Adventures of Merlin for 4 Series and working on a Fifth (And possibly more and/or a movie)
"Le Morte d'Arthur" is a SPECIFIC book. I did not imply that the whole Arthurian legend is outdated since it's been reinterpreted for modern times. Shakespeare is another example. It's getting harder and harder to teach it to students but his themes still survive in modern works.
Ah, my bad, I always referred to the whole Arthurian Legend (And heard it so from others as well) as "Le Morte d'Arthur", I haven't read alot of versions, but, I am partial to TH White Once and Future King as well as the sequel The Book of Merlin, myself.

Regarding the Original Frankenstein Book, yea, I have an excellent Audio Book Reading by Scott Brick of the Original First Editition (It was apprently edited about 10-20 years after original release and released slightly different) and I was blown away how different it was to the movies and the basic story I was familliar with.
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Old June 22 2012, 09:28 AM   #942
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Some people are actually able to appreciate literature, poetry, art, theater, motion pictures et al from different times and places.
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Old June 22 2012, 10:31 AM   #943
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Some people are actually able to appreciate literature, poetry, art, theater, motion pictures et al from different times and places.
You don't really think a silent film could win an Oscar or some other film award in our sophisticated day and age, do you? Only some kind of bullshit Artist could think that.
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Old June 22 2012, 01:01 PM   #944
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Re: "John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

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Some people are actually able to appreciate literature, poetry, art, theater, motion pictures et al from different times and places.
You don't really think a silent film could win an Oscar or some other film award in our sophisticated day and age, do you? Only some kind of bullshit Artist could think that.
How did we go from "can appreciate things from different times" to "couldn't win an oscar today" in one post!??!
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Old June 22 2012, 01:01 PM   #945
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Shakespeare is another example. It's getting harder and harder to teach it to students but his themes still survive in modern works.
Jeez, it's getting harder and harder to teach kids Calculus too. Shakespeare is brilliant for a lot more than its "themes." Try seeing it performed by a decent troupe, you might be surprised.
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