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Old June 19 2009, 02:06 AM   #76
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Re: "John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

I think there's an interview @ movieweb.com where Thomas Hayden Church mentions that John Carter of Mars is one of his upcoming projects.

I have this book called The Greatest Sci-Fi Movies Never Made. In the afterword written by Harry Knowles, he mentions a movie that wasn't offically covered in the book-- a 1930s cell animated adaptation of John Carter of Mars. Had it been made, it would have predated Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs as the first ever animated feature film. The animation tests are said to have looked like a living oil painting. Unfortunately, the financial backers got nervous and dropped out.
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Old November 28 2009, 07:27 PM   #77
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Re: "John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

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I have this book called The Greatest Sci-Fi Movies Never Made. In the afterword written by Harry Knowles, he mentions a movie that wasn't offically covered in the book-- a 1930s cell animated adaptation of John Carter of Mars. Had it been made, it would have predated Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs as the first ever animated feature film. The animation tests are said to have looked like a living oil painting. Unfortunately, the financial backers got nervous and dropped out.
A bit of zombie thread ressurection, but:

Here's a clip of some stuff Bob Clampett (Beaney & Cecil) did for a John Carter project in the 1930's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAlgZlqwnQ

Some pretty cool stuff, IMO.

Also: just read that Willem Dafoe will be portraying Tars Tarkas in the upcoming film.
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Old November 28 2009, 08:05 PM   #78
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Wow, I wish that project had been completed. That would have been incredible.
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Old November 29 2009, 01:37 AM   #79
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I love corporate marketing. So successful at painting false images.

The Walt Disney Company owns Touchstone Pictures and Miramax Films, studios responsible for such fun-filled children's classics as Splash, Pretty Woman, Dead Poets Society, and a slew of Jerry Bruckheimer films. And yet people are afraid this movie will be "kiddified" (as if it somehow can't be, as has already been argued). The Walt Disney Company has proven itself quite capable of making films for mature audiences.
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Old November 29 2009, 01:42 AM   #80
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I had no idea the project was this far along, or was anything more than a would-be contender. Fascinating, and oddly encouraging - the guy who directed Wall-E, a script polish by Chabon, Willem Dafoe, these guys are hitting the right notes... frighteningly so. I'm certainly looking forward to this, then, if not another modern classic it promises to at least try to be one, I hope.

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The Walt Disney Company owns Touchstone Pictures and Miramax Films, studios responsible for such fun-filled children's classics as Splash, Pretty Woman, Dead Poets Society, and a slew of Jerry Bruckheimer films. And yet people are afraid this movie will be "kiddified" (as if it somehow can't be, as has already been argued). The Walt Disney Company has proven itself quite capable of making films for mature audiences.
Yeah, but the question is how they'll approach the property. If they're using the Disney label on it, for example, one can assume it's been kiddified - and a good old rollicking Edgar Rice Burroughs adventure is certainly the sort of story that could easily be portrayed as a child-friendly narrative, for the rather unremarkable reason that - as observed - it sort of is that anyway.

That it's live-action suggests to me they want a teen Star Wars type audience in addition to children, which is good, but that's just an uneducated guess on my part.
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Old November 29 2009, 01:45 AM   #81
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And it looks like there's a direct-to-DVD competitor for the Disney/Pixar effort. This one starring Antonio Sabato Jr. and Traci Lords:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsawq3PBMms
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Old November 29 2009, 02:08 AM   #82
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The Walt Disney Company owns Touchstone Pictures and Miramax Films, studios responsible for such fun-filled children's classics as Splash, Pretty Woman, Dead Poets Society, and a slew of Jerry Bruckheimer films. And yet people are afraid this movie will be "kiddified" (as if it somehow can't be, as has already been argued). The Walt Disney Company has proven itself quite capable of making films for mature audiences.
Yeah, but the question is how they'll approach the property. If they're using the Disney label on it, for example, one can assume it's been kiddified - and a good old rollicking Edgar Rice Burroughs adventure is certainly the sort of story that could easily be portrayed as a child-friendly narrative, for the rather unremarkable reason that - as observed - it sort of is that anyway.
That is a fair point, although I remember they went back and forth over which label to release The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy under. For a short time, it was under the Walt Disney castle logo until they switched to Touchstone. I actually think it was because some people vocalized their concern over how the film would be interpreted with the label.

RJDiogenes, I highly recommend Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier And Clay. It's all about comic books and comic book writers and artists...and it won a Pulitzer! Take that, literary elite!
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Old November 29 2009, 11:14 AM   #83
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And it looks like there's a direct-to-DVD competitor for the Disney/Pixar effort. This one starring Antonio Sabato Jr. and Traci Lords:
Asylum!

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RJDiogenes, I highly recommend Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier And Clay. It's all about comic books and comic book writers and artists...and it won a Pulitzer! Take that, literary elite!
Thanks. That looks pretty cool indeed. I just put it in my Shopping Cart.
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Old November 29 2009, 07:25 PM   #84
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And it looks like there's a direct-to-DVD competitor for the Disney/Pixar effort. This one starring Antonio Sabato Jr. and Traci Lords:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsawq3PBMms
The inspiration for Avatar!!!!

Typical Asylum.

What's even funnier is when they release their titles on Blu-ray.
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Old November 29 2009, 07:32 PM   #85
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They seem to attract semi-respectable talent for their films, go fig.

And have no problems displaying boobs. And they obviously love the genres we love.

So I can't help but have a bit of a soft spot for them.
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Old November 29 2009, 07:36 PM   #86
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Re: "John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

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And it looks like there's a direct-to-DVD competitor for the Disney/Pixar effort. This one starring Antonio Sabato Jr. and Traci Lords:
Asylum!

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RJDiogenes, I highly recommend Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier And Clay. It's all about comic books and comic book writers and artists...and it won a Pulitzer! Take that, literary elite!
Thanks. That looks pretty cool indeed. I just put it in my Shopping Cart.
I second the recommendation. Probably my favourite 21st century piece of literature so far. There's a movie currently in development hell, but if it ever comes out, I don't think it can possibly do that incredible epic of a novel justice. It's a huge, sprawling story that spans many years, and yet it builds some amazing intimate romance and friendship between its characters. When I saw who was in the "Princess of Mars" flick, at first I thought it was porn...then I remembered that Traci Lords is a legit actress now.
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Old November 29 2009, 07:41 PM   #87
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She was great in Zack n Miri.

"Her name Bubbles."

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Old November 29 2009, 11:31 PM   #88
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They seem to attract semi-respectable talent for their films, go fig.

And have no problems displaying boobs. And they obviously love the genres we love.

So I can't help but have a bit of a soft spot for them.
All that is good, and I love indulging in B-Movies, but the big drawback with Asylum is that their product is so incoherently directed and edited that it really detracts from the fun.
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Old December 23 2009, 09:51 PM   #89
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How Avatar Has Changed Pixar's John Carter of Mars

In much the same way that The Incredibles forced Marvel to back up and try (mostly unsuccessfully) to match the spectacle that Pixar had created of a family with (similar!) superpowers, it sounds like Avatar is truly and already changing the way future movies are conceived and executed. IMO, nobody is better at pushing the envelope than Pixar, unless it's James Cameron, so to have Avatar set a bar to make John Carter of Mars an even better film, it probably couldn't be in any better hands than Pixar's. It's going to be interesting to see how this turns out - I was happy to hear that Stanton was the driving force, happier still to find that Pixar was actually standing behind it, and now I'm expecting to get blown out of the theater with a movie that will not only have a strong story, but possibly the most incredible VFX ever done.
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Old December 23 2009, 11:53 PM   #90
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That article sounds more like one actor's opinion than an actual statement from Pixar that they're going to change their whole production method.

And I'm not sure what the writer means when he talks about Pixar and the uncanny valley. Pixar's humans are generally among the most caricatured to be found in animation, and they're specifically designed that way.
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