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Old April 6 2012, 06:15 PM   #751
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Re: "John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

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That Forbes piece, which looks like it's from someone who blogs on geek culture for them rather than from one of their business writers, fails to take into account the revenue split between the studio and theatres, and that the split can be very poor in some foreign territories. The studio generally ends up with about 55% of domestic box office and 40-45% of international box office. China recently agreed to increase the percentage US studios get from Chinese box office to 25%, up from 13-17%. So John Carter is still a long way from turning a profit on its production budget, let alone on its total costs.
Doing the math (and using the high end of those percentages), the film still has a long way to go:

Revenue (Disney):
$84.6 million (foreign)
+ $36.3 million (domestic)
= $120.9 million (total)

$120.9 million (total revenue)
- $250 million (production budget)
- $100 million (prints/advertising budget)
= (-) $229.1 million

JoeD80 is right about the studios earning more money from the grosses in week one than later weeks, but the 55% average is usually about right. (Disney might get a bit more because so much of the movie's business occurred in weeks one and two).

Box office is a small part of the revenue stream provided by movies, however. Home video and especially TV is where the real money is made. The movie will make a profit -- just not a big one and not as quickly as Disney would like.
This makes me wonder how soon will Disney pull the movie from theaters in order to concentrate on the DVD sales?
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Old April 7 2012, 09:33 PM   #752
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It's dropped from 3,749 screens to 1,015 in four weeks. It will run its course at the box office soon enough; I don't think Disney is going to pull the movie before then. They haven't even announced a release date for the title on home video, although you can pre-order it on certain sites, suggesting it won't be too long.
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Old April 18 2012, 05:17 PM   #753
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The release date for the John Cater DVD is June 5, 2012.

http://www.amazon.com/John-Carter-Ta...4765724&sr=8-3
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Old April 18 2012, 05:20 PM   #754
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Re: "John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

That's a full month earlier than I expected.
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Old April 18 2012, 05:29 PM   #755
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That's a full month earlier than I expected.
Only 3 months in the theaters. That is a quick turn around. But I will be happy to own this movie.
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Old April 18 2012, 06:07 PM   #756
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Isn't there something where if a movie bombs then a dvd comes out earlier?

It felt that way for Green Lantern. Maybe 3 months just passed by real quickly
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Old April 18 2012, 06:09 PM   #757
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Isn't there something where if a movie bombs then a dvd comes out earlier?

It felt that way for Green Lantern. Maybe 3 months just passed by real quickly

Most movies are coming out on DVD/BR sooner these days, regardless of how well they do.
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Old April 18 2012, 06:26 PM   #758
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Green Lantern was released on DVD and Blu-ray four months after its theatrical release. That's the standard release window these days. John Carter will go to DVD/BR a month faster than the average.
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Old April 18 2012, 06:29 PM   #759
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Green Lantern was released on DVD and Blu-ray four months after its theatrical release. That's the standard release window these days. John Carter will go to DVD/BR a month faster than the average.
Exactly. Seventeen weeks is the standard window. John Carter is thirteen or fourteen.

Disney has been pushing for a shorter window, though. When they announced plans for Alice in Wonderland to have a thirteen week window in the UK, they got pushback from the theaters who threatened not to show the film.
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Old April 18 2012, 07:57 PM   #760
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That's a full month earlier than I expected.
Only 3 months in the theaters. That is a quick turn around. But I will be happy to own this movie.
Same.
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Old April 18 2012, 09:54 PM   #761
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Three months does seem to be the minimum time between movies' theatrical release and DVD release. I knoe Serenity was released in theatres at the end of September 2005 and was on DVD just before Chirstmas 2005.
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Old April 20 2012, 08:14 PM   #762
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Head are rolling at Disney!
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Old April 20 2012, 08:50 PM   #763
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And they did absolutely nothing to stem the tide. They did shit for promoting this film and what little they did was shit. The film itself does not deserve the rep it's getting. It was poorly handled in so many ways.
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Old April 21 2012, 02:22 AM   #764
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I hope the stink of failure doesn't keep Andrew Stanton from making more movies. I want to see him direct more films, either animated or live action.
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Old April 21 2012, 02:35 AM   #765
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So has it become trendy to dump on John Carter after it flopped so badly?
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