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Old July 15 2011, 02:59 AM   #166
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Re: "John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

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That doesn't bother me much. Middle Earth looked like a touched-up version of New Zealand.
A little more than just some slight photoshop work, though. I rememebr one of the commentaries pointing out that a given scene was a composite from three or four different New Zealand locations, then inlaid with some modelwork.

And really--how exotic can a desert look?
Very.

Hell, look at the real Mars. That's some weird looking crap right there.


Weeeeeird.
Nice picture but remember the books don't take place on Real Mars™ they take place on a late 19th/EARLY 20th century idea of Mars.
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Old July 15 2011, 03:02 AM   #167
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Surprisingly good trailer, for something that seems to be aimed at the Twilight crowd.
In what way is it being aimed at the "twilight" crowd?
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Old July 15 2011, 03:26 AM   #168
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This does not look good at all. And I was expecting a completely Pixar style CGI film, not live action with CGI critters.

Just...bad.
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Old July 15 2011, 03:40 AM   #169
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Nice picture but remember the books don't take place on Real Mars™ they take place on a late 19th/EARLY 20th century idea of Mars.
Yes but my point is even the real Mars is pretty weird, and the toning down of Mars as a freaky-weird place seemed to have something to do with giving the film a faux historical feel (a principle also invoked in Jackson's Lord of the Rings films).

Now, can Burroughs' Mars look freaky weird? Ask Frank Frazetta, why not.

One of the things I most dearly love about planetary romance art and, by extension film (where it actually exists) are surreal, bizarre, mindblowing planetscapes. Worlds that never were and maybe could never be. Peculiarly sloped mountains, perplexingly coloured skies, fauna that bedevils my overindulgence in adjacetive. Avatar sated me handily when it came to this itch. I had been vaguely hoping that John Carter would be my next serving of fantastic planets, but I guess not.

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Marvel Comics is doing an adaptation of the first novel, and they're calling it, I kid you not, John Carter: A Princess of Mars.
Oh that is priceless.
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Old July 15 2011, 03:49 AM   #170
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Hell, look at the real Mars. That's some weird looking crap right there.


Weeeeeird.
If by "real" Mars you mean CGI landscape, well, yeah.
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Old July 15 2011, 04:01 AM   #171
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Well it was the best shot of Olympus Mons an incredibly lazy google search could turn up.
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Old July 15 2011, 04:14 AM   #172
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I thought the trailer was pretty good myself.
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Old July 15 2011, 04:38 AM   #173
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I don't know why they don't just call it Princess Of Mars.
Marvel Comics is doing an adaptation of the first novel, and they're calling it, I kid you not, John Carter: A Princess of Mars.
Sounds like the sequel title for To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar.
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Old July 15 2011, 04:50 AM   #174
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They should have gone with John Carter of Mars. Then they could call the sequels The Gods of Mars and The Warlord of Mars.
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Old July 15 2011, 04:59 AM   #175
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I have no idea why they shortened it to "John Carter" either since it was known as "John Carter of Mars" for the longest time. Anyways these title changes and debates always seem so silly for me. I'm sure there is some kind of marketing reason behind it.
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Old July 15 2011, 05:01 AM   #176
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The bomb that is called Mars Needs Moms is the reason behind it.
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Old July 15 2011, 05:15 AM   #177
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Nobody's going to remember Mars Needs Moms by the time this movie comes out.
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Old July 15 2011, 05:23 AM   #178
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But tell the fidgety Disney execs that. I can't think of any other reason. It was called John Carter of Mars all along until that animated flick bombed. Coincidence? Maybe.
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Old July 15 2011, 09:37 AM   #179
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Plus which, it was the title of the book.
Doesn't matter. As others have pointed out, a Disney film with the word "Princess" in the title sends all the wrong marketing signals . . .

And "Mars," arguably, sounds old-fashioned and corny these days. Like Marvin the Martian or My Favorite Martian or "Mars Needs Women."
I suppose I can see why Disney would be possessive of "Princess," but it seems like there have been plenty of movies with "Mars" in the title recently.

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Marvel Comics is doing an adaptation of the first novel, and they're calling it, I kid you not, John Carter: A Princess of Mars.
That's fantastic.

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One of the things I most dearly love about planetary romance art and, by extension film (where it actually exists) are surreal, bizarre, mindblowing planetscapes. Worlds that never were and maybe could never be. Peculiarly sloped mountains, perplexingly coloured skies, fauna that bedevils my overindulgence in adjacetive. Avatar sated me handily when it came to this itch. I had been vaguely hoping that John Carter would be my next serving of fantastic planets, but I guess not.
I agree. They may be going with a more photorealistic approach for the same reason some are speculating they're avoiding the original title: The current audience finds artistry "cheesy." Although, as you say, Avatar bucked that trend.

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They should have gone with John Carter of Mars. Then they could call the sequels The Gods of Mars and The Warlord of Mars.
Warlord of Mars would have been a good choice. They've used that in the comics.
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Old July 15 2011, 09:44 AM   #180
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They may be going with a more photorealistic approach for the same reason some are speculating they're avoiding the original title: The current audience finds artistry "cheesy." Although, as you say, Avatar bucked that trend.
Avatar was photorealisitc. Perhaps the words you're looking for are "fantastic, " "colorful," or "trippy," which some sequences were, and which are not the same thing as avoiding photorealism.
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