"Polaris" - Page 53

dayxday1000 · August 18 2011, 12:33 AM

Dennis wrote:

There's probably a three-dimensional, full-color galactic map at one point as well as 3D visualization/reconstruction of some microscopic phenomena.

Oh never mind, I missed this part the first time around.

Admiral Buzzkill · August 18 2011, 02:04 AM

Oh, it can do 3D too. Some crew members complain that the 3D gives 'em headaches, is too dark and they don't like paying the premium for a ticket.

dayxday1000 · August 18 2011, 05:37 AM

Dennis wrote:

Oh, it can do 3D too. Some crew members complain that the 3D gives 'em headaches, is too dark and they don't like paying the premium for a ticket.

I bet they hate the glasses too.

Admiral Buzzkill · August 23 2011, 05:23 PM

I posted this link in the TOS forum, but it has direct application to what we and a lot of fan films do:

Minimalist Magic - The Star Trek Look

doubleohfive · August 23 2011, 06:16 PM

^^ Great article!

Admiral Buzzkill · August 23 2011, 06:34 PM

BTW, on the same site there's a hilarious - and entirely unfair and hostile - essay riffing on a book about William Shatner. I'm not gonna link to it.

Maurice · August 23 2011, 08:21 PM

^^^I read that article last year and while I think the author has some insightful point, I think the author strains credibility and credulity a bit, especially when wandering off the topic of the sets and lighting. Star Trek's style is less striking when you actually watch it back to back with other shows filmed at the same time and other sci-fi shows of the period. The state of the art in science fiction film production design was clean and minimalist back through the 50s, and that's not unique to Trek.

MikeH92467 · August 23 2011, 10:51 PM

Interesting stuff and food for thought in considering why the first three Star Wars movies worked so much better for some of us than the last three. The original Episode IV featured live creatures and real buildings at Mos Eisley. It stuck in George Lucas's craw that he couldn't portray everything he wanted, but I had no problem accepting it as a "wretched hive of scum and villainly" even before he "fixed" it with his revised version. Contrast that with the next three where he had the money, time and power to do everything exactly the way he wanted. Instead of the Sand People we got Jar Jar Binks. Sometimes getting everything you want isn't a good thing.
Certainly the minimalist argument is valid when discussing audio dramas as well. In Excelsior I've had a lot of fun seeing just how many little boops, beeps and assorted stuff I could drop into a bridge scene and yet I think the most powerful scene I cut may be the one from our latest episode which consists of a very subdued alien planet background and a traumatized survivor trying to describe "the machines in the daaarkk". It's often true, less is more.

Admiral Buzzkill · August 24 2011, 05:01 AM

DS9Sega wrote:

^^^I read that article last year and while I think the author has some insightful point, I think the author strains credibility and credulity a bit, especially when wandering off the topic of the sets and lighting.

Stretching to apply Minimalist principles to Shatner's physique and the way he "uses his face" is pretty ridiculous. OTOH I was interested in his comparisons of the dramatic style of the series - at least some episodes - with the staging of Minimalist drama. And I liked that he was able to appreciate and analyze relevant elements of some episodes without going all in and promoting them as better than they were.

His analysis of the visual aspects of the show is usefully distinct from his examination of the dramatic elements - I think he's right to see Star Trek and The Twilight Zone in particular in terms of the contrasts in their visual presentation and the similarities in their dramatic content.

Admiral_Young · August 26 2011, 08:37 AM

I've been reading on and off and this sounds very intriguing to me Dennis. I love that you have some of the backstory on the website and little mini entries on the universe. I am looking forward to seeing "Polaris".

Admiral Buzzkill · August 26 2011, 02:11 PM

Thanks!

Kelso · September 12 2011, 12:34 AM

I saw a guy in a Polaris shirt at Dragon*Con. I yelled "POLARIS!" at him and gave him a thumbs-up.

I might have been tipsy at the time.

Admiral Buzzkill · September 12 2011, 12:51 AM

Cool!

A number of our crew went to Dragon*Con, I think.

Admiral Buzzkill · September 22 2011, 03:13 AM

Captions wanted.

"Tell me we're insured for pyro."

MikeH92467 · September 22 2011, 03:45 AM

^^^My God, look at the size of that...we'll never get it all on the cover..." (Cheech and Chong reference)

August 18 2011, 02:04 AM	#782
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: "Polaris" Oh, it can do 3D too. Some crew members complain that the 3D gives 'em headaches, is too dark and they don't like paying the premium for a ticket. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

August 23 2011, 05:23 PM	#784
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: "Polaris" I posted this link in the TOS forum, but it has direct application to what we and a lot of fan films do: Minimalist Magic - The Star Trek Look __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

August 23 2011, 06:16 PM	#785
doubleohfive Fleet Admiral Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: "Polaris" ^^ Great article! __________________ "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." -Voltaire

August 23 2011, 06:34 PM	#786
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: "Polaris" BTW, on the same site there's a hilarious - and entirely unfair and hostile - essay riffing on a book about William Shatner. I'm not gonna link to it. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

August 23 2011, 08:21 PM	#787
Maurice Rear Admiral Location: Maurice in San Francisco	Re: "Polaris" ^^^I read that article last year and while I think the author has some insightful point, I think the author strains credibility and credulity a bit, especially when wandering off the topic of the sets and lighting. Star Trek's style is less striking when you actually watch it back to back with other shows filmed at the same time and other sci-fi shows of the period. The state of the art in science fiction film production design was clean and minimalist back through the 50s, and that's not unique to Trek. __________________ * * * "Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." —Rod Serling, 1970"

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August 23 2011, 10:51 PM	#788
MikeH92467 Vice Admiral Location: Tampa, FL	Re: "Polaris" Interesting stuff and food for thought in considering why the first three Star Wars movies worked so much better for some of us than the last three. The original Episode IV featured live creatures and real buildings at Mos Eisley. It stuck in George Lucas's craw that he couldn't portray everything he wanted, but I had no problem accepting it as a "wretched hive of scum and villainly" even before he "fixed" it with his revised version. Contrast that with the next three where he had the money, time and power to do everything exactly the way he wanted. Instead of the Sand People we got Jar Jar Binks. Sometimes getting everything you want isn't a good thing. Certainly the minimalist argument is valid when discussing audio dramas as well. In Excelsior I've had a lot of fun seeing just how many little boops, beeps and assorted stuff I could drop into a bridge scene and yet I think the most powerful scene I cut may be the one from our latest episode which consists of a very subdued alien planet background and a traumatized survivor trying to describe "the machines in the daaarkk". It's often true, less is more. __________________ "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." Annie Savoy

August 26 2011, 08:37 AM	#790
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: "Polaris" I've been reading on and off and this sounds very intriguing to me Dennis. I love that you have some of the backstory on the website and little mini entries on the universe. I am looking forward to seeing "Polaris". __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

August 26 2011, 02:11 PM	#791
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: "Polaris" Thanks! __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

September 12 2011, 12:34 AM	#792
Kelso Vice Admiral Location: On the destruct button until the last minute!	Re: "Polaris" I saw a guy in a Polaris shirt at Dragon*Con. I yelled "POLARIS!" at him and gave him a thumbs-up. I might have been tipsy at the time. __________________ "Murder on Tuesday"! The all-new comic strip from Kail Tescar's startrekanimated.com My Puppet Building Blog!

September 12 2011, 12:51 AM	#793
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: "Polaris" Cool! A number of our crew went to Dragon*Con, I think. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

September 22 2011, 03:13 AM	#794
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: "Polaris" Captions wanted. "Tell me we're insured for pyro." __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

September 22 2011, 03:45 AM	#795
MikeH92467 Vice Admiral Location: Tampa, FL	Re: "Polaris" ^^^My God, look at the size of that...we'll never get it all on the cover..." (Cheech and Chong reference) __________________ "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." Annie Savoy