RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 138,237
Posts: 5,348,038
Members: 24,611
Currently online: 515
Newest member: fxks323

TrekToday headlines

Insight Editions Announces Three Trek Books For 2015
By: T'Bonz on Jul 24

To Be Takei Review by Spencer Blohm
By: T'Bonz on Jul 24

Mulgrew: Playing Red
By: T'Bonz on Jul 24

Hallmark 2015 Trek Ornaments
By: T'Bonz on Jul 24

Funko Mini Spock
By: T'Bonz on Jul 23

IDW Publishing Comic Preview
By: T'Bonz on Jul 23

A Baby For Saldana
By: T'Bonz on Jul 23

Klingon Beer Arrives In The US
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22

Star Trek: Prelude To Axanar
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22

Abrams Announces Star Wars: Force For Change Sweepstakes
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > TV & Media

TV & Media Non-Trek television, movies, books, music, etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old January 2 2009, 10:01 AM   #1
Vanyel
The Imperious Leader
 
Vanyel's Avatar
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
The Phantom of the Opera....2?

It looks like Andrew Lloyd Webber is hoping that lightening will strike the same place twice. Phantom: Love Never Dies is, if all goes well, set to open in London's West End, New York's Broadway and an Asian country which Webber hopes will be China.

The story will take place in Coney Island in or around the year 1900 and would feature, the Phantom, Madame Giry, Meg, Christine, Raul, and their teen aged son who also happens to be a musical genius. Link

I don't think is a good idea. TPotO ended in a good way. Yes we don't know what happens to him; but we do know that at least Christine didn't see him as a monster:
Christine:
Pitiful creature of darkness
What kind of like have you known?
God give me courage to show you
You are not alone
[Christine gives the Phantom a full kiss on the lips.
Stuned, the Phantom then releases her and Raoul.]

How can a sequel improve on this magnificent musical?

The movie, while making a good choice to move the Chandelier scene to the end, fouled up nearly everything else.

I don't know, maybe Webber has lost his creativity. The last musical of his I saw was Sunset Blvd. and while a few of the songs were catchy (Sunset Blvd., With One Look and The Greatest Star of All) the rest of the musical was bore.

So Phantom Phans, what do you think about a sequel to The Phantom Of The Opera?
__________________
Imogene, get serious! Who do you think you're talking to?! I've known you for 27 years, and all I can say is, if God was giving out sexually transmitted diseases to people as a punishment for sinning, then you would be at the free clinic all the time! And so would the rest of us!
--Julia Sugarbaker
Vanyel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2 2009, 10:12 AM   #2
Sci
Admiral
 
Sci's Avatar
 
Location: "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

I haven't really enjoyed any of Webber's work since Whistle Down the Wind, and I don't think he's really grown much as a composer since he and Tim Rice were working together.
__________________
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it." - George Orwell, 1946
Sci is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2 2009, 10:45 AM   #3
Aragorn
Admiral
 
Aragorn's Avatar
 
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

The sun is dying... and the only way to reignite it is with song.

And in the end The Phantom will jump into the sun to sacrifice himself... or does he?
Aragorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2 2009, 06:39 PM   #4
Spot's Meow
Vice Admiral
 
Spot's Meow's Avatar
 
Location: California
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

I have mixed feelings about it. It's one of those things that can either be really awesome, or totally crappy. Probably the latter, but I have to wait and see.
__________________
Time present and time past
are both perhaps present in time future.
And time future contained in time past.
—T.S. Eliot
Spot's Meow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2 2009, 06:52 PM   #5
Neroon
Mod of balance
 
Neroon's Avatar
 
Location: On my ship the Rocinante
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

I got a bad pheeling about this.

Why do I get the uneasy sense that this will produce some bastard child from Christine and the Phantom?

Or a simple rehash in some way of the original story?

To have anything, any kind of sequel scrapes away so much of the ending of the original musical.

__________________
"Those who promote peace have joy."
- Proverbs 12:20
Neroon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2 2009, 08:59 PM   #6
Smiley
Rear Admiral
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

Has there ever been a successful, high-profile musical sequel production? Unless there's a killer story and music, I just don't see this show gaining a big fanbase.
Smiley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3 2009, 02:01 AM   #7
Tomato
Rear Admiral
 
Location: T.O. in Canada eh!
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

This sort of feels like Grease 2 or Saturday Night Fever 2.
Tomato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3 2009, 02:11 AM   #8
Kryton
Admiral
 
Kryton's Avatar
 
Location: In ur Starbug
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

But there's still Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo!
Kryton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4 2009, 09:13 PM   #9
TGTheodore
Writer
 
TGTheodore's Avatar
 
Location: TGTheodore
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

And don't forget the Broadway wonder bombs, Bring Back Birdie and Annie Warbucks.

I almost forgot: MAD Magazine's hysterical sequel to Fiddler on the Roof, which takes place after Tevye's family has come to America and assimilated so well that they also suffer from all of our societal woes.

--Ted
__________________
Writer/Composer/Lyricist/Librettist
SNW IV, V, VI
TGTheodore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4 2009, 11:08 PM   #10
gblews
Rear Admiral
 
gblews's Avatar
 
Location: So. Cal.
View gblews's Twitter Profile
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

I just don't see any way Webber will be able to duplicate, much less improve, on that magnificent set of songs from the original. Phantom was his masterpiece and it would seem that there is no place to go but down from there.

The original probably made so much money, Webber, or someone, thinks, lets just shake the tree again and see what happens.
__________________
Duckman: I'll never forget the last thing my father said to me...
Cornfed: "Careful son, I don't think the safety's on"?
Duckman: BEFORE THAT!!!
gblews is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 5 2009, 07:00 AM   #11
Mike Farley
Commodore
 
Mike Farley's Avatar
 
Location: Lost Vegas
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

Gaston Leroux didn't seem to think Phantom needed a sequel. But then again nothing screams Gothic romance like Coney Island.
Mike Farley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 5 2009, 07:28 AM   #12
DonIago
Rear Admiral
 
Location: Burlington, VT, USA
View DonIago's Twitter Profile Send a message via ICQ to DonIago Send a message via AIM to DonIago Send a message via Yahoo to DonIago
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

No no no no no no no!
__________________
--DonIago
It was the best of Trek, it was the worst of Trek...
"If I lean over, I leave myself open to wedgies, wet willies, or even the dreaded Rear Admiral!"
DonIago is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 5 2009, 07:37 AM   #13
Vanyel
The Imperious Leader
 
Vanyel's Avatar
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

Mike Farley wrote: View Post
But then again nothing screams Gothic romance like Coney Island.


Aint that the truth.
__________________
Imogene, get serious! Who do you think you're talking to?! I've known you for 27 years, and all I can say is, if God was giving out sexually transmitted diseases to people as a punishment for sinning, then you would be at the free clinic all the time! And so would the rest of us!
--Julia Sugarbaker
Vanyel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 5 2009, 07:59 AM   #14
Daedalus12
Rear Admiral
 
Daedalus12's Avatar
 
Location: South West France!
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

Vanyel wrote: View Post
So Phantom Phans, what do you think about a sequel to The Phantom Of The Opera?
Definitely not a fan of musical theater if this sequel has this cover in it then I'll check it out.
__________________
"Bennett & Meyer are obviously the Ceti Eels introduced into the collective brain of Trekdom, leading to easy manipulation (TWOK), impaired cognitive functionality (TSFS), drooling (TVH), agonized death (TFF) and extended post-mortem twitching (TUC).
Daedalus12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 5 2009, 09:51 AM   #15
Vanyel
The Imperious Leader
 
Vanyel's Avatar
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Re: The Phantom of the Opera....2?

Daedalus12 wrote: View Post
Vanyel wrote: View Post
So Phantom Phans, what do you think about a sequel to The Phantom Of The Opera?
Definitely not a fan of musical theater if this sequel has this cover in it then I'll check it out.
Interesting take on the song, The Phantom of the Opera. The women has a good voice and could probably preform the role of Christine. The guy was just horrible. Once he started singing I shut it off.

I doubt the sequel would use The Phantom of the Opera in it though. Christine already knows the Phantom, there would be no need for them to sing the song again.

Then again....Webber is not what he was in the 1970's and 1980's. Jesus Christ Superstar, Evita, The Phantom of the Opera, Cats are all classics. He just might rehash some of the songs. I really hope he doesn't.
__________________
Imogene, get serious! Who do you think you're talking to?! I've known you for 27 years, and all I can say is, if God was giving out sexually transmitted diseases to people as a punishment for sinning, then you would be at the free clinic all the time! And so would the rest of us!
--Julia Sugarbaker
Vanyel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:11 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.