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Old July 27 2011, 04:29 AM   #1
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Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

The book "Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing" was recently loaned to me by a friend. I have struggled to read it.
I love the Enterprise era books by Micheal Martin and Andy Mangels, but this one just seems lifeless and dreary.

Did anyone else struggle to finish this book - and does it get better as it goes along?
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Old July 27 2011, 07:35 AM   #2
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

I am currently reading this one as well. I got it 2 weeks ago and im 3/4 of the way thru. So far Romulans attacks some worlds. Travis left, Tpol went to vulcan, and Vulcans dont want to fight in the war. not alot going on really, its very slow paced. I'd have been pissed if id got the big paperback, but at least i got the 8 dollar one.
Its ok. Im just like hmmm 1/4 of the book left. I thought the R W would be bigger, scarier, reonate more of an impact.

I didnt get the whole reporter on mars thing....I duno I gotta finish it b4 i say anything else. Its ok. Not bad, but its like one of the things ive heard about this since i was a kid. Like in wrestling when WCW finally invaded WWF. Nothing could live up to the hype.
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Old July 27 2011, 08:51 AM   #3
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

I was really looking forward to the Romulan War novel - I even prepared for it be reading The Good That Men Do and Kobayashi Maru.

Well... not quite. I had to stop reading Kobayashi Maru after the first two thirds, because it's unbelievably boring, as is its predecessor. I don't see myself finishing it and reading Beneath the Raptor's Wing anytime soon.

A bloody shame, this story could have been so epic...

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Old July 27 2011, 10:03 AM   #4
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

It's the only Trek novel I've given up on. I didn't enjoy any of the prior post-ENT novels, either. I found the direction uninteresting and I hated the apologetic retconning aimed at the most anal of TOS (not Enterprise!) continuity freaks.
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Old July 27 2011, 10:30 AM   #5
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

I put it down as well. Not saying I will never pick it back up (it took me 15 years to finish God Emperor of Dune for example), but I won't be reading it anytime soon. As for Good that Men Do, I liked that one, but felt that Kobayashi Maru was disappointing, and Raptor's Wing is continuing in that vein. No disrespect to MM, but the Romulan War should've been a four or five book series farmed out to various Trek writers, like they Typhon Pact (though hopefully better).
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Old July 28 2011, 04:07 PM   #6
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

I had a hard time getting through the mind numbingly boring Kobayashi Maru so I never bothered with The Romulan War.
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Old July 28 2011, 11:06 PM   #7
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

The best thing about the book is the cover. 'Cos I own the Tellarite's outfit:


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Old July 29 2011, 06:49 AM   #8
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

I think all the ENT novels have had good plots and stories but the writing is very dry, is over detailed, and has too many side stories that mean nothing to the plot I'm interested in. In Romulan War, I just started skipping sections about the reporter or the Admiral and General talking. Trim some of the fat and the books would be much better. I'm planning on reading the next one cause I want to know what happens but I'm not enthusiastic about it.

I haven't enjoyed reading any of Martin's books to be honest. But he has a great technical mind and is a true fan. Though I don't enjoy his novels, I wish he would write tech manuals and other references. He would be my first choice to spearhead an Enterprise Tech Manual or Chronology.
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Old July 29 2011, 01:15 PM   #9
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I actually liked Beneath the Raptor's Wing's focus on the side stories, on the way the war affected various people and groups. It was refreshing to read a war story that wasn't focused on the combat, which is boring to me, but on the stuff that actually matters about a war, the impact it has on people and society.
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Old July 29 2011, 02:54 PM   #10
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

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I actually liked Beneath the Raptor's Wing's focus on the side stories, on the way the war affected various people and groups. It was refreshing to read a war story that wasn't focused on the combat, which is boring to me, but on the stuff that actually matters about a war, the impact it has on people and society.
Yeah, I felt exactly the same way. The side stuff that was included was one of my favorite parts of that series. Plus it really helped flesh out the non-Starfleet sides of the 22nd century, I thought. Made the setting feel more full.

(I might be biased, though, since it's the first Star Trek book ever to feature Eastern Oregon, my home area. I grew up just 40 miles from Enterprise, the actual town. )
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Old July 29 2011, 03:02 PM   #11
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

We all like different things, that is the beauty of the variety of fans, authors, and incarnations of trek. Though I stand by my earlier position, I will admit to possibly being a little biased against this book as a former space shuttle employee who was disheartened to see the namesakes I love be destroyed so easily.
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Old July 29 2011, 03:42 PM   #12
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I'm loving this book so far! Great job, Mr. Martin!
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Old July 29 2011, 07:50 PM   #13
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I don't mind the side stories per se, I'm way more of a soft sci-fi fan than into hard, military fiction. However, from what I've read thus far of the Romulan War, the side stories/characters just aren't that interesting. And even Trip is starting to wear out his resurrection. As much as I liked the decision to bring him back in TGTMD, it's now like they have to find a way to keep him in the thick of things, where it might be better to put that focus elsewhere.
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Old July 30 2011, 12:13 AM   #14
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Re: Struggling to read "The Romulan War"

Am I the only one who felt Travis was a bit out of character? I understand the destruction of the Maru and disappearance of his family's ship hit him hard but completely losing respect for Archer and transferring seemed a little out of character to me.

I have found the concept of human technology being so different that it is less susceptible to the Romulan weapon a great concept and helps cement how humans caught up and the UFP established their fleet around Starfleet designs.

I also hope Ent continues into the formation of the UFP, like the series needed to and that we get to see the Drexler's refit come about. And while NX class ships are being named for space shuttles, could an author PLEASE fit a Buran in there?
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Old July 30 2011, 12:40 AM   #15
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Am I the only one who felt Travis was a bit out of character? I understand the destruction of the Maru and disappearance of his family's ship hit him hard but completely losing respect for Archer and transferring seemed a little out of character to me.
Given that he didn't really have much of a character on the show, it's hard to say what would be out of character for him. If you mean it was a change from the way he was portrayed onscreen, that would be true, but that was the whole point, to give him more of a personality than he had before.
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