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Old December 4 2008, 11:11 PM   #31
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Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs

I'm very sorry to hear this. I enjoyed working with Marco.
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Old December 4 2008, 11:17 PM   #32
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Let me echo the laments. Out of a number of SNW authors, Marco gave me more than a few pitches and chances to continue writing Star Trek lit.

Marco, thank you so much for your confidence and generosity. I know you'll land on your feet.

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Old December 4 2008, 11:29 PM   #33
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It seems the credit crunch is biting everywhere

It is the same where my husband works: Less and less people are supposed to do more and more work.

I also hope that Marco will find new work soon. Good luck!

I will miss his contributions on this board and am grateful for what he did for the Star Trek literature. Hopefully his loss won`t affect the quality of future books.
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Old December 4 2008, 11:43 PM   #34
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Dean Smith, John Ordover and Marco Palmieri are the people who opened the door for me as a writer and, in Marco's case, shepherded me through some fairly significant learning patches.

He's a great guy and a damned creative editor. Awful lot of cool packed into that little frame.

He'll be fine.

But this still sucks.

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Old December 5 2008, 12:28 AM   #35
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Haven't known Marco long as an editor, but I had been looking forward to doing so more and more.

I don't *think* fans need fear too much damage to the line - Margaret Clark and the rest of the editorial team are still there - as for us writers, well, I I've written for lines that have gone through three or four editors in my time.

But, whichever way you cut it, it was a damned shitty way to handle the business and to treat your employees.

However, I'm sure, knowing Marco's CV, that he'll get himself a decent job fairly quickly - I certainly hope so.

And now I actually feel shitty about Reservoir Ferengi, which has a ship called the Golden Handshake and assorted references to cutting down on employees... Oh, the editorial team are going love the proofs of that...
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Old December 5 2008, 12:34 AM   #36
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It's been reported that Trek editor Marco Palmieri was among those laid off yesterday.
Noooooooo!

Marco, I've enjoyed everything you've done with the Trek books over the years. Thank you for some wonderful reading experiences, thank you for participating in the forum here, and best of the luck for the future.
Oh dear God, no.

That's complete bu@#*#@. Not to take anything away from the other editors, but the books under Marco's stewardship were my favorite. There was just that extra *something* that he was able to bring out in his writers. Titan, Vanguard, DS9-R... an amazing run of quality. And where does this leave those series (particularly Vanguard?). Or David Mack's The Calling?

Damn damn damn. I hope that he finds a job soon. He was stellar at his job. S&S really screwed up on this one.
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Old December 5 2008, 12:51 AM   #37
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For what it's worth, anything that's already contracted (which would include every project announced to date and a few more things besides) will still be going forward. Beyond 2009, though, it's too early to say what will happen. Except that Trek fiction will continue to be published.
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Old December 5 2008, 12:54 AM   #38
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For what it's worth, anything that's already contracted (which would include every project announced to date and a few more things besides) will still be going forward. Beyond 2009, though, it's too early to say what will happen. Except that Trek fiction will continue to be published.
Well, basically I suspect it'll take things longer to be commissioned, because there's now fewer people with more of a workload...
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Old December 5 2008, 01:19 AM   #39
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Crap, crap, crap, f***ing crap. Specifically, and in general.

I was kind of looking forward to 2008 being over. But I fear 2009 is going to completely suck for the majority of people in this country.
Not just the states it seems, unemployment levels are rising all across the developed world and this recession will bite far deeper and harder than the people in charge are willing or even able to accept.

And not the same thing at all Marco and everyone else with similar experiences, but I have been laid off before and it fucking sucks great big Targ balls regardless if it is December or June.
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Old December 5 2008, 01:32 AM   #40
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Crapsticks.
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Old December 5 2008, 01:40 AM   #41
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I wish Marco, his family, and everyone else affected by this the best at S&S the best.
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Old December 5 2008, 01:48 AM   #42
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Ah man, that really sucks. Poor Marco, and poor Trek lit.
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Old December 5 2008, 02:10 AM   #43
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Crap, crap, crap, f***ing crap. Specifically, and in general.

I was kind of looking forward to 2008 being over. But I fear 2009 is going to completely suck for the majority of people in this country.
Not just the states it seems, unemployment levels are rising all across the developed world and this recession will bite far deeper and harder than the people in charge are willing or even able to accept.
You are 100% right, and my apologies for being so American-centric there. Not to take this off on a political tangent, but I guess I put a lot of the blame for the current sutiation on the direction our country has been headed in for many years, so that's why I was thinking of it in terms of the U.S. Again, my apologies to everyone here.
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Old December 5 2008, 02:20 AM   #44
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And where does this leave those series (particularly Vanguard?).
None of that has been decided just yet. Marco has said he will assist his former coworkers with the transition. As for Vanguard, Dayton Ward and I have picked up some of the slack by staying in direct contact with one another, coordinating our efforts, offering each other story notes, etc. We will certainly miss Marco's editorial guidance and vision, but we have to believe in ourselves and in our own familiarity with the nuts and bolts of the saga, and have faith that we can carry on.

Or David Mack's The Calling?
The good news is that the "heavy lifting" on that project is mostly done. I had already received Marco's line edits and story notes, and I had already finished my rewrites. The book was passed for press and sent to copy editing before Marco was laid off, and on his last day he and I approved the final version of the cover.

There will likely still be some more tweaks and adjustments during copy editing, though I am not completely certain who will be assuming editorial responsibility for the book at this point, nor am I at liberty to speculate. But for now, the book is on schedule for its July 2009 release.
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Old December 5 2008, 02:23 AM   #45
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^ As always, thanks for the information, David.

Maybe we can get Terry Tate to have a little "one on one" time with the people responsible for the layoffs...
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