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Old November 29 2008, 12:51 AM   #61
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Re: Tons of New Kelvin Info! (Including crew pics)

Pulse phasers to compensate for the lack of photon torpedoes for some reason?
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Old November 29 2008, 12:54 AM   #62
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Wow! Thanks for the heads up, and the downloadable screen caps!



I really get a Arex the Triexian vibe from the Alien. Not exactly the same but close.
Sortof looks like species 8472. Atleast the head does. Not sure about the rest of it.
There's a vague resemblance to an Edoan but this guy has something of a sinister air, no?
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Old November 29 2008, 01:27 AM   #63
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I like this ship more and more everytime I see it. I still think that the phaser turrets are some sort of CIWS emplacements. From the pictures of them firing, the pulses seem too small to do any damage to a bigger ship. I'd bet that they chew up fighters and incoming weapons like rawhide. They might do some damage to a larger ship at very close range, when fired enmasse at the same spot, but otherwise, they just look weak to me. Kinda like the 5" guns to the USS Missouri's 16 inchers...which is what the ball turret phasers would be.
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Old November 29 2008, 02:12 AM   #64
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I don't know about never seen before. We've seen phasers pulsing instead of a beam, at the very least, in The Wrath of Khan. TOS visual effects never were really consistant, but they appeared to pulse at times there too.
The Enterprise fired pulse phasers before in the original series episode, Balance of Terror.
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Old November 29 2008, 02:30 AM   #65
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So is there or is there not an interior shot of Kelvin's bridge?

I can't get the fwtrwtwt site to load...
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Old November 29 2008, 02:32 AM   #66
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From what you can see of the Kelvin's staff, it looks like the uniforms are a little to the ones shown in the trailer for the Enterprise crew.
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Old November 29 2008, 02:37 AM   #67
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So is there or is there not an interior shot of Kelvin's bridge?

I can't get the fwtrwtwt site to load...
There issn't. There are only the pictures I posted, and the 3D model viewer.
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Old November 29 2008, 02:50 AM   #68
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Will Captain Robau capture Tony Stark and force him to build the Jericho missile?
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Old November 29 2008, 04:23 AM   #69
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though that's probably on the part of the designers of the website as opposed to being taken directly from the movie.
It's possible but I imagine the are only putting up what they are being asked to put up with all the available info Paramount supplies them.
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Old November 29 2008, 04:54 AM   #70
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It looks like there are two sets of phaser emitters:

(1) The TMP-era-like red beam-firing emitters.

(2) The pop-up blue bolt-firing emitters.

I don't think we'll see the different emitters "switching" -- I think their each dedicated systems, which still makes the Defiant's weapons special.

Oh, and remember Kirk orders the phasers to be "set for proximity blast" in Balance of Terror, for whatever that's worth.
Yeah, the spinning view of the ship does not mention photon torpedoes either, nor does the Kelvin seem to have torpedo hard-points located on its hull. With the way the promotional material is worded, it does seem as if the phaser turrets do have a selectable firing model which according to the diagram allows the turrets to, "fire bolts (not beams) of highly concentrated energy, or beams of less power to slice through the shield or hull of an attacking vessel." It seems pretty clear that the bolts do more damage per discharge (slower rate of fire?) than the beam, which sounds like it would be used primarily to drain shields and take out specific parts of a ship without destroying it. Maybe phaser bolts are envisioned as precursors to photon torpedoes, or maybe they are designed to replace them entirely.
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Old November 29 2008, 05:11 AM   #71
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Although canon doesn't apply to this movie and I don't really care either way, But before ENT came along, I thought the general concensus was that early TOS and pre-TOS era ships used Lasers. Have we pretty much nullified that as not canon because it was only mentioned in one episode? The first time I saw the turrets on the Kelvin I thought that they were probably laser emitters because of the era, but now I see that they went with phasers afterall.
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Old November 29 2008, 05:21 AM   #72
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Can we do something bout those pics stretching the thread?
Should be better now.
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Old November 29 2008, 05:26 AM   #73
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The Kelvin looks pretty good for a single-nacelle ship.
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Old November 29 2008, 05:33 AM   #74
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I don't know about never seen before. We've seen phasers pulsing instead of a beam, at the very least, in The Wrath of Khan. TOS visual effects never were really consistent, but they appeared to pulse at times there too.
The Enterprise fired pulse phasers before in the original series episode, Balance of Terror.
Although, iirc, that specific visual effect was later reused as photon torpedoes, so it's a bit ambiguous, to be honest.
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Old November 29 2008, 05:35 AM   #75
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Although canon doesn't apply to this movie and I don't really care either way, But before ENT came along, I thought the general concensus was that early TOS and pre-TOS era ships used Lasers. Have we pretty much nullified that as not canon because it was only mentioned in one episode? The first time I saw the turrets on the Kelvin I thought that they were probably laser emitters because of the era, but now I see that they went with phasers afterall.
Cage references hand lasers, but the weapons mounted on the Enterprise were never identified by name. Also, although it might seem wrong from a modern perspective, there's nothing indicating that lasers and phasers weren't used simultaneously.
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