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Old November 28 2008, 10:04 PM   #31
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Old November 28 2008, 10:06 PM   #32
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That is one fine-looking ALIEN!
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Old November 28 2008, 10:11 PM   #33
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That is one fine-looking ALIEN!
He doesn't look like a guy with a chicken Nugget stuck on his forehead!
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Old November 28 2008, 10:12 PM   #34
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Took a while for me to load in FF, but it eventually worked. I'm pretty disappointed that they made Robau Cuban, instead of Pakistani though. Not to be racist, but I think a Pakistani captain would have made a larger impact, especially in today's world.
It does work in Firefox, but I recall a certificate issue when we saw things on the Intel site earlier this year. I also recall discussion of the nationality of the name and it seemed to turn up as Spanish/Latino more often than anything else.

That the actor isn't Hispanic is a detail; if Ricardo Montalban can play a man with Sikh-Indic heritage, then I don't see a problem with a Pakistani actor playing a part written as Hispanic. That's called acting, and if he's the right guy for the part, then that should be all that counts. We would have been much the poorer if Anthony Quinn had been allowed to play only Mexican-Irish characters.
Then we should hire black, brown, or yellow actors to appear in "whiteface" for all of the English, German ,Irish, etc. characters that dominate film. Makeup can do wonders these days.

Of course, being from Cuba doesn't prohibit one from having Pakistani heritage -- certainly there are Pakastani Americans. Why not Pakistani Cubans?

One thing about the Kelvin makes the divergent time line thing muddled -- if Nero disrupts the timeline by attacking the Kelvin, resulting in a 23rd century that is no longer quite the same as the one we know, then the Kelvin design itself seems improper, looking and lit rather more like a TOS movie ship than anything from the original series. I do like that the Kelvin crew uniforms -- what can be seen of them -- adopt the mono color scheme of the shirts from the Pike era, though ribbed collars would have been a nice touch.
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Old November 28 2008, 10:15 PM   #35
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I am conflicted. I like it better then the new E, but not as much as MadMan's interpretation... Seems that the proportions are off a little. The flat hull works, but the nacelle is too close to the ship. The nacelle forward cap is a little odd, but I am okay with it.

The engineering or shuttle bay hull (or what ever it's supposed to be) is also too close to the hull, and too thin. From the aft shot with the shuttles departing, it looks all shuttle bay...

I am ashamed that I like the bridge window (that I assume closes). The phaser turrents are okay, though not my taste. No reason not to have them on a ship.

All in all, to me, it fits in nicely as an older ship in the Star Trek universe. (Despite my dislike for single nacelle designs). I really do like it better then the new E. I think this ship fits in better with the original series Enterprise then the new movie.

Just my 2 bucks.
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Old November 28 2008, 10:37 PM   #36
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I believe this is also the first instance of a blue uniform connoting command status.
Reading this, my first thought was: What about Captain Beverly Crusher from All Good Things (strictly speaking not from "our" timeline, but I was going to bring her up anyway )?

Then I realized she actually didn't wear a blue uniform commanding the Pasteur. (Okay, now I'm digressing even further, but actually, why? It was a hospital ship, and she was still a doctor.)

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All in all, to me, it fits in nicely as an older ship in the Star Trek universe. (Despite my dislike for single nacelle designs). I really do like it better then the new E. I think this ship fits in better with the original series Enterprise then the new movie.
Exactly the way I feel about the Kelvin.
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Old November 28 2008, 10:43 PM   #37
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That is one cool ship!
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I believe this is also the first instance of a blue uniform connoting command status.
ENT's jumpsuits were blue too, except for the division color stripes.
Also, in the Starfleet of the 29th century (Voyager's "Relativity"), blue is the command division color.
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Old November 28 2008, 10:49 PM   #39
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Looks like the Kelvin is JJ's nod to more traditional trekship styles with the new E being the reboot follow-on he's replacing the original look with.

Those shuttles look like the offspring of a TOS shuttlecraft and a TNG Type 6.
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Old November 28 2008, 10:50 PM   #40
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I don't know, having now seen the Kelvin in 3-D I don't much care for it. It looks kinda blah; That and upside down. Besides, isn't a Kelvin an alien that turns people into little white pentahexacubical thingies?
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Old November 28 2008, 10:57 PM   #41
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Besides, isn't a Kelvin an alien that turns people into little white pentahexacubical thingies?
No, that would be a KelvAn.
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Old November 28 2008, 11:06 PM   #42
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It all looks great - and oddly enough, more suggestive of what I'd have expected a Trek "update" to look like than the Pike/Kirk?Spock "era" that we've seen so far.

One wonders, idlely, if there isn't a television series to be carved out of the earlier era. I'm sure that if that "Starfleet" fan organization with all of the local ships is still around there will shortly be a few chapters serving aboard Kelvin-type vessels...
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Old November 28 2008, 11:09 PM   #43
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I don't know, having now seen the Kelvin in 3-D I don't much care for it. It looks kinda blah; That and upside down. Besides, isn't a Kelvin an alien that turns people into little white pentahexacubical thingies?
I think you mean a KelvAn. Besides, Kelvin is a notable scientist in Earth's history.

I agree, I don't like that the ship seems upside down to me, but other than that, the designs look very good, appropriately aged, and very much from a TOS style tech manual.

As for the alien, THAT's the kind of alien I've been wanting in a Trek movie for AGES. It just seemed odd to me that these movies had millions of dollars in budget and we had the same TV style makeup, if even that. The closest we had to real variety was Star Trek III and VI. Doctor Soran didn't have to be a human-looking El-Aurian, the Sona were a big disappointment, and the Remans seemed pretty typical in that only their heads were different and nothing else.
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Old November 28 2008, 11:14 PM   #44
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This also confirms the first name of Kirk's father, something we'd only been able to speculate on for now. Also throws in another nod to the previous continuity by mentioning Beta Quadrant, though that's probably on the part of the designers of the website as opposed to being taken directly from the movie.
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The ship has a slight image distortion, it's not that flat!!!

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