Why so little Uhura in ST3? - Page 6

middyseafort · January 16 2009, 09:43 PM

^Google and they come up.

Elder Knight · January 19 2009, 03:08 AM

Kryton wrote:

Despite its flaws, ST3 remains my favorite Trek film. Go fig.

I thought it came closest to capturing the things we admired about the TV series, good and not-so-good.

Tulin · January 19 2009, 04:09 AM

Definitely one of my favourites!

I had seen TMP at the cinema at age 9 with the whole family(ONLY time we went as a family to a ST movie - it STILL blows me away that we did that, but TMP was THAT big of an event, which I don't think kids today realize!)and I got into ST in a big way in ealy '83 after reading Joannie's "Making of The Trek Conventions".

After that, I went to see TWoK at the drive in with a cousin and her family during the May school holidays. Luckily I did because this means I can say I have seen every ST film on the big screen!

TSFS was therefore the first ST film I went to see as a full blown, mad, crazy Trekker. As such it holds a VERY special place in my heart and was, at the time, an intensely emotional experience.

Chimpy Chompy · January 21 2009, 02:18 PM

My hunch is that if we were do do a survey of people's preferences of Trek movies in order, ST3 would consistently fall mid-table. It's not often I see it claimed as a favourite, but it never gets Nemesis or Final Frontier level hate either.

re: the original question, Uhura was probably doing something helpful but unglamorous, to slow down Starfleet's pursuit of Enterprise. Messing with computer records or something. The kind of thing a novellisation can flesh out, but in a movie would just screw with the pacing.

Admiral Buzzkill · January 21 2009, 03:35 PM

middyseafort wrote:

^Google and they come up.

Then there's her featured supporting role with Isaac Hayes.

Dimesdan · January 23 2009, 04:01 PM

Tulin wrote:

My partner and I are going through the films(he has never seen them before)and guess what his favourite is so far?

He LOVED TMP!!!!

He said he LOVED the '70's SF design aesthetic and the grand story and the evolved humanity theme. I showed him TWoK and said, "If you felt that way about TMP, you're going to LOVE this one...." and guess what?

He finished it and said, "What was all the fuss about? Why do people label TWoK as this GREAT movie?!? TMP was a MUCH better movie!"

So, there ya go.

I watched all the Trek films with my ex a while back as she had never seen them (had never seen any Trek actually) so over the course of a weekend we watched five of the six TOS films and she pretty much had the same reaction to Kahn and the thought that of the five we watched, Search for Spock was the best.

Personally I like all the films apart from Final Frontier, they all have little scenes or moments that I really like (I'll probably regret saying this, but I'll defy anyone to not think that when Enterprise in Nemesis warps away from Romulus and literally spins over just before the jump isn't a cool piece of FX) but my favourite has to be The Undiscovered Country of the ten.

CaptPicard · February 3 2009, 06:21 PM

I'm sorry, but Uhura sucked. Her and Chekov were the 2 crap characters of TOS and I was fine that she didn't get much screen time. She got more screen time in Final Frontier and look where that got us-an embarassing scene of her singing. She sucked so bad they didn't even bother giving her a first name on-screen.

ClayinCA · February 3 2009, 08:18 PM

CaptPicard wrote:

I'm sorry, but Uhura sucked. Her and Chekov were the 2 crap characters of TOS and I was fine that she didn't get much screen time. She got more screen time in Final Frontier and look where that got us-an embarassing scene of her singing. She sucked so bad they didn't even bother giving her a first name on-screen.

I...can't decide if this was meant to be funny or not.

middyseafort · February 3 2009, 10:01 PM

CaptPicard wrote:

I'm sorry, but Uhura sucked. Her and Chekov were the 2 crap characters of TOS and I was fine that she didn't get much screen time. She got more screen time in Final Frontier and look where that got us-an embarassing scene of her singing. She sucked so bad they didn't even bother giving her a first name on-screen.

Well it was all Nichelle Nichols up on that sand dune, but it certainly wasn't her singing in the finished film. She was dubbed over by the band Hiroshima.

cardinal biggles · February 3 2009, 10:52 PM

CaptPicard wrote:

She sucked so bad they didn't even bother giving her a first name on-screen.

By that logic, Sulu was the second-suckiest character, because they didn't officially give him a first name until the last TOS movie.

CaptPicard · February 4 2009, 01:28 AM

cardinal biggles wrote:

CaptPicard wrote:

She sucked so bad they didn't even bother giving her a first name on-screen.

By that logic, Sulu was the second-suckiest character, because they didn't officially give him a first name until the last TOS movie.

Sulu was a crap character too. Seriously people bitch and moan about characters in the other shows, such as Travis, Hoshi, Harry Kim, Deanna Troi etc. and for TOS the big "3" were all that show had character-wise that was worth investing time in. Scotty was also good, nothing wrong with him. But as for Sulu, Uhura, and Chekov they were pointless characters that served little purpose on the show. The main purpose they had was to show there was diversity in the future and women could have high positions. But as characters they flat out stunk up the joint. Many people look at TOS as the holy grail and feel the characters are iconic but those 3 weren't much to write home about.

Joker · February 4 2009, 06:14 PM

CaptPicard wrote:

Sulu was a crap character too. Seriously people bitch and moan about characters in the other shows, such as Travis, Hoshi, Harry Kim, Deanna Troi etc. and for TOS the big "3" were all that show had character-wise that was worth investing time in.

The "Big Three" are called that for a reason.

They were the stars.

Grant · February 4 2009, 07:08 PM

THe 'little 4' were always utilized poorly anyway.

The tholian Web takes place over just a few hours, but in order to get a few more lines for Uhura--inexplicably in the middle of the crisis she goes off duty, changes clothes, sees Kirk's apparition in her quarters, gets sent to sickbay, is declared sane, goes back to her quarters gets changed back into uniform and goes back on duty it time for the climax.

please.

In 'Elaan....' Elaan uses Uhura's quarters---clearly just to get a couple of lines throw in for her. What, they don't have a few nice guest quarters?

The only time they used Sulu & Uhura right was the first season when they were off duty and or asserting themselves on the bridge.

In 'Man Trap' Uhura really gives it to Spock when he glosses over a landing party death. When did she ever speak her mind after that. Did they get mail that she was being to 'uppity'?
In Balance...' Sulu goes along with Styles and pushes Kirk to put the ship on intruder alert. I can't think of another time where Kirk or Spock didn't shoot down any advice or comment by Sulu.

January 16 2009, 09:43 PM	#76
middyseafort Rear Admiral Location: The Bay Area	Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3? ^Google and they come up. __________________ A mild-mannered reporter Literary Masturbation

January 19 2009, 04:09 AM	#78
Tulin Vice Admiral Location: With the most wonderful man in the world!	Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3? Definitely one of my favourites! I had seen TMP at the cinema at age 9 with the whole family(ONLY time we went as a family to a ST movie - it STILL blows me away that we did that, but TMP was THAT big of an event, which I don't think kids today realize!)and I got into ST in a big way in ealy '83 after reading Joannie's "Making of The Trek Conventions". After that, I went to see TWoK at the drive in with a cousin and her family during the May school holidays. Luckily I did because this means I can say I have seen every ST film on the big screen! TSFS was therefore the first ST film I went to see as a full blown, mad, crazy Trekker. As such it holds a VERY special place in my heart and was, at the time, an intensely emotional experience.

January 21 2009, 02:18 PM	#79
Chimpy Chompy Commander Location: unending grimness	Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3? My hunch is that if we were do do a survey of people's preferences of Trek movies in order, ST3 would consistently fall mid-table. It's not often I see it claimed as a favourite, but it never gets Nemesis or Final Frontier level hate either. re: the original question, Uhura was probably doing something helpful but unglamorous, to slow down Starfleet's pursuit of Enterprise. Messing with computer records or something. The kind of thing a novellisation can flesh out, but in a movie would just screw with the pacing.

February 3 2009, 06:21 PM	#82
CaptPicard Lieutenant Junior Grade Location: Inside the Nexus	Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3? I'm sorry, but Uhura sucked. Her and Chekov were the 2 crap characters of TOS and I was fine that she didn't get much screen time. She got more screen time in Final Frontier and look where that got us-an embarassing scene of her singing. She sucked so bad they didn't even bother giving her a first name on-screen.

February 4 2009, 07:08 PM	#88
Grant Fleet Captain	Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3? THe 'little 4' were always utilized poorly anyway. The tholian Web takes place over just a few hours, but in order to get a few more lines for Uhura--inexplicably in the middle of the crisis she goes off duty, changes clothes, sees Kirk's apparition in her quarters, gets sent to sickbay, is declared sane, goes back to her quarters gets changed back into uniform and goes back on duty it time for the climax. please. In 'Elaan....' Elaan uses Uhura's quarters---clearly just to get a couple of lines throw in for her. What, they don't have a few nice guest quarters? The only time they used Sulu & Uhura right was the first season when they were off duty and or asserting themselves on the bridge. In 'Man Trap' Uhura really gives it to Spock when he glosses over a landing party death. When did she ever speak her mind after that. Did they get mail that she was being to 'uppity'? In Balance...' Sulu goes along with Styles and pushes Kirk to put the ship on intruder alert. I can't think of another time where Kirk or Spock didn't shoot down any advice or comment by Sulu.

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