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Old December 9 2008, 02:53 AM   #31
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Re: The Next Generation Season 1

I thought season 1 was better than most people talk about it, but in my opinion it was still the worst season. Here is how I rated each episode (only the season finale falls in the "A" range):

Encounter at Farpoint - C+

The Naked Now - D-

Code of Honor - D-

The Last Outpost - C+

Where No One Has Gone Before - D-

Lonely Among Us - C

Justice - F

The Battle - C+

Hide and Q - C

Haven - C+

The Big Goodbye - C

Datalore - B-

Angel One - D-

11001001 - B

Too Short a Season - C+

When the Bough Breaks - F

Home Soil - B-

Coming of Age - C

Heart of Glory - B

The Arsenal of Freedom - B

Symbiosis - B-

Skin of Evil - B

We'll Always Have Paris - F

Conspiracy - B

The Neutral Zone - A-
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Old December 9 2008, 03:41 AM   #32
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Re: The Next Generation Season 1

I'll add that TNG's first season is better than most of the subsequent series' first seasons, even DSN, which also had an awkward first season, but esp. superior to ENT's first season. As noted, it's a mixed bag, with some truly awful eps like Home Soil, which to me is even worse than Code of Honor, which I liked the first time I watched it, but then grew to despise on subsequent viewings. -- RR
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Old December 9 2008, 07:59 AM   #33
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Re: The Next Generation Season 1

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I thought season 1 was better than most people talk about it, but in my opinion it was still the worst season. Here is how I rated each episode (only the season finale falls in the "A" range):

Encounter at Farpoint - C+

The Naked Now - D-
Code of Honor - D-
The Last Outpost - C+
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The Neutral Zone - A-
Just watched 'The Last Outpost'. They could've called it, 'Meet the Ferengis'. I agree that 'Naked Now' is a grade lower then Farpoint (the worst so far). I liked 'Code of Honor' a little better. Look forward to 'The Neutral Zone'.

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Old December 9 2008, 03:44 PM   #34
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I'll add that TNG's first season is better than most of the subsequent series' first seasons, even DSN, which also had an awkward first season, but esp. superior to ENT's first season. As noted, it's a mixed bag, with some truly awful eps like Home Soil, which to me is even worse than Code of Honor, which I liked the first time I watched it, but then grew to despise on subsequent viewings. -- RR
DS9 IMO had a better 2 hour series premiere.

TNG's Encounter at Farpoint was perhaps barely slightly better than average, but Emissary was probably the best series premiere of all the Trek episodes.

I agree Deep Space 9's first season was weak, but you did have the excellent episode "Duet" plus the series premiere.

I would agree and give the first season win to TNG.
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Old December 10 2008, 04:32 AM   #35
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I'll add that TNG's first season is better than most of the subsequent series' first seasons, even DSN, which also had an awkward first season, but esp. superior to ENT's first season. As noted, it's a mixed bag, with some truly awful eps like Home Soil, which to me is even worse than Code of Honor, which I liked the first time I watched it, but then grew to despise on subsequent viewings. -- RR
DS9 IMO had a better 2 hour series premiere.

TNG's Encounter at Farpoint was perhaps barely slightly better than average, but Emissary was probably the best series premiere of all the Trek episodes.

I agree Deep Space 9's first season was weak, but you did have the excellent episode "Duet" plus the series premiere.

I would agree and give the first season win to TNG.
Surefire:

Yes, Emissary is certainly a great series premiere, the best of the modern Trek shows. As a spin-off series, it also has the lead from the previous series make a good appearance. However, I'm old school, so I'll match it with The Cage any day!

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Old December 10 2008, 06:21 AM   #36
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Re: The Next Generation Season 1

I am going to rank the following:

Best 1st season overall:

1.) TOS
2.) TNG
3.) VOY
4.) DS9
5.) ENT


Best 1st season premiere episode:

1.) DS9 "Emissary"
2.) VOY "Caretaker"
3.) ENT "Broken Bow"
4.) TNG "Encounter at Farpoint"
5.) TOS "The Man Trap"


Best pilot episode:

1.) "The Cage"
2.) "The Emissary"
3.) "Where No Man Has Gone Before"
4.) "Caretaker"
5.) "Broken Bow"
6.) "Encounter at Farpoint"


Best 1st season finale:

1.) TNG - "The Neutral Zone"
2.) DS9 - "In the Hands of the Prophets"
3.) TOS - "Operation -- Annihilate!"
4.) VOY - "Learning Curve"
5.) ENT - "Shockwave, Part I"
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Old December 10 2008, 08:44 AM   #37
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Some first season episodes are still amongst my favourite epoisodes overall:

Skin of Evil
Big Goodbye
Heart of Glory
11001001

I even like Angel One! And I'm not afraid to admit it.
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Old December 10 2008, 05:52 PM   #38
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Some first season episodes are still amongst my favourite epoisodes overall:

Skin of Evil
Big Goodbye
Heart of Glory
11001001

I even like Angel One! And I'm not afraid to admit it.
That's beautiful, WllsBauble -- I'm moved like the ocean, tossed like the sea! Certainly, there are worse eps in season one than Angel One. But the '80s Heather Locklear hairstyles of the Femizons, and the ridiculous effeminate male outfits, just make that ep even more ludicrous. It's like a bad '80s music video! The one part I liked is when Yar objects to the outfit Riker has to wear to meet Beata (sp?) and he lists the different outfits he's had to wear on other first contact missions to meet other leaders, like furs and feathers! -- RR
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Old December 10 2008, 08:30 PM   #39
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^ I spent too many Saturday afternoons as a kid watching Princess Ardala's attempts to dominate Buck Rogers to not appreciate Beata's attempts to do the same to Riker all those years later.
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Old December 11 2008, 02:57 AM   #40
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Good Will Riker wrote: View Post
I am going to rank the following:

Best 1st season overall:

1.) TOS
2.) TNG
3.) VOY
4.) DS9
5.) ENT
Agree


Best 1st season premiere episode:

1.) DS9 "Emissary"
2.) VOY "Caretaker"
3.) ENT "Broken Bow"
4.) TNG "Encounter at Farpoint"
5.) TOS "The Man Trap"
Here is my order, a little different:

Best 1st season premiere episode (I HATED "Broken Bow" with a passion):

1.) DS9 "Emissary"
2.) VOY "Caretaker"
3) TNG "Encounter at Farpoint"
4.) TOS "The Man Trap"
5.) ENT "Broken Bow"





Best 1st season finale:

1.) TNG - "The Neutral Zone"
2.) DS9 - "In the Hands of the Prophets"
3.) TOS - "Operation -- Annihilate!"
4.) VOY - "Learning Curve"
5.) ENT - "Shockwave, Part I"
Agreed



Finally, here is how I rank the series's as a whole: (looking at every season):

1. DS9
2. TNG
3. TOS
4. VOY
5. ENT

For all practical purposes, I consider DS9 and TNG tied, but since DS9 had an arc that made it more long-term compelling, I give it the nod. Both series were by far my favorite.

I liked TOS overall.

Disliked Voyager

HATED ENT
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Old December 11 2008, 03:31 AM   #41
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^ I spent too many Saturday afternoons as a kid watching Princess Ardala's attempts to dominate Buck Rogers to not appreciate Beata's attempts to do the same to Riker all those years later.
This reminds me of how I watched "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" back in kindergarten, and how it helped me to transition to watching the 1st season of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" when it premiered when I was in the 6th grade due to the similar aesthetics of the 2 shows.

My friends who finally got into TNG in its 5th season saw it as the "Picard diplomacy show" by then, but when I initially jumped aboard when "Encounter at Farpoint" premiered in 1987, I was heavily influenced by TOS, "Battlestar Galactica," "Buck Rogers," "Flash Gordon," and Star Wars when I tuned in for some action-adventure along with social commentary and planetary exploration.

I just wished that TNG had Hawk, though (Worf, as badass as he was in TNG & DS9, was still a "by the book" type character.). He was a badass lonewolf character who was actually the only cool part about the 2nd season of "Buck Rogers."
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Old December 11 2008, 08:31 AM   #42
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^ Perception is an interesting thing. For me the two shows couldn't be more unalike. That may be something to do with the age difference for me when I was watching them. I was 13 or so when I watched season one of Buck Rogers and 22 when I watched season one of TNG. Those are two massively different periods in my life and the shows represent that to me. Still, I obviously maintained my love of a bit of female domination over macho heroes!
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Old December 11 2008, 10:33 AM   #43
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^^^

Well, no, I can never revisit those "Buck Rogers" episodes after all these years, but 28 years since originally watching those episodes on television (I am currently 33.) I discovered to my surprise and delight that Buster Crabbe ("Flash Gordon") guest-starred in one of those episodes.
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Old December 11 2008, 07:50 PM   #44
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^ Oh, yes. I loved that! I loved the exchange that goes something like:
Crabbe: "I was saving the world before you were born."
Gerrard: "You think so?"
Crabbe: "Young man, I know so."

Great stuff.
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Old December 16 2008, 04:47 PM   #45
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Nothing is going to be perfect it and season is far from it. I have to defend it though. It brought me back into the Star Trek fold. It captured my imagination like it did when I was younger. I love the first episode.
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