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Old November 17 2008, 03:06 AM   #16
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Re: Star Trek-TMP Directors Edition NOT on Blu-Ray!!!

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This is TGT. He considers sub-human anyone who doesn't do exactly as he wishes in regards to Star trek.
Post, not poster. Please stay away from the personal comments.

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Oh, Gep, you tragicomic result of an apparently iodine-deficient childhood. I very much doubt that the first two seasons of TOS were made to my exact specifications by Gene Roddenberry, considering I was only biologically conceived well after the series itself was cancelled.
I don't care how you gussied it up, you still called him a retard. That plus your ill-conceived bit of trolling by thread tag gets you an infraction. Comments to PM.
What the fuck is trolling by thread tag?
I must admit that I don't understand it myself...
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Old November 17 2008, 03:25 AM   #17
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Post, not poster. Please stay away from the personal comments.


I don't care how you gussied it up, you still called him a retard. That plus your ill-conceived bit of trolling by thread tag gets you an infraction. Comments to PM.
What the fuck is trolling by thread tag?
I must admit that I don't understand it myself...
Glad I'm in good company, maybe somebody will enlighten us. I mean, if TGT wants or deserves a warning, he can usually give a lot more to earn it.
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Old November 17 2008, 03:29 AM   #18
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Re: Star Trek-TMP Directors Edition NOT on Blu-Ray!!!

The thread tags, which you can view at the bottom of the thread. He had added one titled "Gep Malakai's brainfart," which I have since deleted.
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Old November 17 2008, 04:07 AM   #19
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I thought that they could branch on Blu-Ray and provide all three versions of the film on a single disk?
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Old November 17 2008, 04:51 AM   #20
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I thought that they could branch on Blu-Ray and provide all three versions of the film on a single disk?
They can. Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Blade Runner both branch three versions on one disc. However, in the case of the Director's Edition, Paramount is either a.) unwilling to shell out the money needed to uprez the DE effects to 1080p resolution for Blu-Ray.... or b.) is waiting to double-dip later on.

Now what Paramount can do is branch the theatrical version and the TV version on one disc but they'll probably put the extended TV scenes in a separate section.

I'm interested to find out what kind of features the disc will have. Will they recycle the same self-congratulatory featurettes from the original DVD or will we get something a little better? And since the original DVD commentary was recorded for the DE, will they record a new one or simply edit out any comments that pertain specifically to the DE?

I admit it will be nice to have the original version on Blu-Ray for posterity but Paramount should really give this film the Blade Runner treatment.

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It would also be fitting to have NEW Tributes to Gene Roddenberry, Robert Wise, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan, and Jerry Goldsmith included.

Finally, it would be GREAT if the ST-TMP Music Score was in DVD Audio format and re-released on 200 gram Vinyl too!
I agree that new tributes for Robert Wise, Jerry Goldsmith, and James Doohan are a must, along with composer Alexander Courage, writer Jack Sowards for ST:II, composer Leonard Rosenman for ST:IV, and writer Michael Piller for ST:Ins.

As for the soundtrack, I doubt it will be re-released anytime soon. IIRC, it took forever to get the extended TMP soundtrack we have now out on the shelves. You can always e-mail one of the specialty soundtrack companies like Varese Sarabande, Intrada, or Film Score Monthly but Paramount seems to be a bit fickle with licensing this stuff and the re-use fees could make the whole project cost-prohibitive. On the other hand, I'm listening to the just-released expanded version of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom so anything's possible.

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Old November 17 2008, 05:08 PM   #21
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I thought that they could branch on Blu-Ray and provide all three versions of the film on a single disk?
They can. Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Blade Runner both branch three versions on one disc. However, in the case of the Director's Edition, Paramount is either a.) unwilling to shell out the money needed to uprez the DE effects to 1080p resolution for Blu-Ray.... or b.) is waiting to double-dip later on.

Now what Paramount can do is branch the theatrical version and the TV version on one disc but they'll probably put the extended TV scenes in a separate section.
Well, not entirely. Seamless branching relies on the movie being pretty much identical from one version to the next. If there isn't a lot of overlap, it isn't worth doing. So while they could do seamless branching for the theatrical version and the extended version (since the only difference is the presence or absence of those few scenes), it'd be much more difficult to do so with the DE, considering the number of trims, rearranged shots, new visual effects and, most challengingly, the almost entirely new audio mix. There's just nothing left that's 100% identical to the theatrical version. So they could do what Blade Runner did, with the DE being on one disc and the two prior versions being branched on another, but they couldn't put all three on the same disc.

I'm interested to find out what kind of features the disc will have. Will they recycle the same self-congratulatory featurettes from the original DVD or will we get something a little better?
As I recall, the reason the DE was delayed from the beginning of 2001 to the end of 2001 was that all the special features had to be redone, since they weren't masturbatory enough and needed to be whitewashed. So I doubt it.
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Old November 17 2008, 07:08 PM   #22
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So they could do what Blade Runner did, with the DE being on one disc and the two prior versions being branched on another, but they couldn't put all three on the same disc.
That's what I was hoping they would do. And you're right - I didn't read the original poster's message in its entirety. They couldn't branch all three on one disc.

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Old November 18 2008, 10:50 AM   #23
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The original version of TMP had much better Red Alert klaxons than what they stuck in The Director's Edition.
Agreed. The director's edition seemed to go the route of the more subdued klaxons of the DS9/Voyager/Enterprise era. I much prefer the more in-your-face approach of TOS/TMP/TNG.
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I'm interested to find out what kind of features the disc will have. Will they recycle the same self-congratulatory featurettes
Certainly, there was a reunion group interview filmed with David Gerrold and numerous fan extras from the rec deck scene. It will be part of the new bonus features material.
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Old November 19 2008, 03:01 AM   #25
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thank you paramount, I've never liked the director's edition
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Old November 19 2008, 03:50 AM   #26
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That's great news and awful news all at the same time. I like the DE, I just miss the original. My biggest disappointment was the sound overhaul. It needed one, just not the one it got.

Did they ever do the DE FX in HD? My gathering was that they did not.
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No, they didn't, otherwise we'd probably either be getting just the DE or a set with both versions.
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Old November 19 2008, 08:10 AM   #28
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"Malfunction. Malfunction. Malfunction."

"Emergency alert -- negative control at helm. Emergency alert -- negative control at helm."


I'm so glad to have the original sounds back.

There was something downright scary/serious about the original enterprise voice.

Love that!
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Old November 19 2008, 09:48 AM   #29
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"Malfunction. Malfunction. Malfunction."

"Emergency alert -- negative control at helm. Emergency alert -- negative control at helm."


I'm so glad to have the original sounds back.

There was something downright scary/serious about the original enterprise voice.

Love that!
That voice says "crap is happening! pay attention!" the voice in the DE sounds like "there is no parking in the white zone"
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Don't start up with your "White Zone" sh*t again!

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