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Old November 15 2008, 09:30 PM   #91
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I am a purist at heart. QoS was a good movie by the way. It wasn't Casino Royale but it was good. Anyhow the trailer was great. I don't know if the movie will be good or not though. However, canon has been thrown right out the window. The only things that will remain the same from all other trek is; there is an Enterprise, the characters retain the same names, there is a Captain Pike, and the old Red alert sound. That's about it. Everything else is up for grabs. This isn't a prequel to the 60's show. This is a complete reboot. I am excited for John Cho, I hear Sulu is going to be a bad ass which is cool. I had alot to be down about concerning this new movie. The trailer made me realize that i should just sit back and have fun. It got me excited. I heard no laughter in my audience. I actually heard someone say "it's about time", whatever that meant. But for people who will not be able to let go of old Trek, this movie is not for you. I thought i was one of those types, but after the trailer I don't want to be.
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Old November 15 2008, 09:31 PM   #92
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Ditto... I was laughing too hard to respond until now. Reminds me of Mars Attacks!
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Old November 15 2008, 09:33 PM   #93
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As for the 'antique cars' - Trek has often wrongly left the impression that because a new tech comes along old technology must therefore become extinct. Not how it tends to work, the old and new tend to coexist and if some of it has a fashionable quality such as cars so much the better.

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Old November 15 2008, 09:35 PM   #94
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I saw the trailer last night with QoS, and I have to say... it didn't have a dramatic effect on me. That isn't to say I disliked what I saw. I just didn't feel particularly pumped or excited after I saw it. Visually, the film looks very interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about the bright white Enterprise interiors. I'm not sure I like the idea of young Kirk driving an antique Mustang off a cliff. The f/x work looks top-notch, as expected from ILM.

The trailer flashed by so quickly, and there was so much to take in... I guess it just didn't give me a chance to walk away with a particular feeling (positive or negative).
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Old November 15 2008, 09:40 PM   #95
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As for the 'antique cars' - Trek has often wrongly left the impression that because a new tech comes along old technology must therefore become extinct. Not how it tends to work, the old and new tend to coexist and if some of it has a fashionable quality such as cars so much the better.

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The only exceptions to that were: Kirk collecting antiques and Paris working on old cars. I do agree with you that somehow Trek has mostly given the impression of "that's outdated, let's ignore it".
The TNG episode "Relics" is good because it cofronts this issue head on: People can become relics, not just inanimate objects.
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Old November 15 2008, 09:44 PM   #96
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... I'm not sure I like the idea of young Kirk driving an antique Mustang off a cliff...
I agree that the driving the car-off-the-cliff scene really set the wrong tone for that trailer. The trailer would have been much better without it.

I'm just worried that the car-off-the-cliff scene will also set the wrong tone for the film, and that the film will suffer because of it.
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Old November 15 2008, 09:46 PM   #97
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Wow, just loved it.
I'm very happy.
The shots of the 'E' look great in the quick glimpses.
All the sets look 'real', solid, large, substatial----not 'budgety'
It justs feels like a huge epic movie and it seems to me it will add to the trek mythos even if it isn't exactly the same look or style of the other versions.

I really wish it was May 9 right now.

Had to wait from 9:45 till 1:30 pm because the first auditorium I saw the movie in didn't have the trailer.
Usher told me I could come back to the later show and see it.

Young 17 year old kid and he said he 'loved it'
Very cool a new generation of trek fan hyping the movie for an old timer .like me!!!
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Old November 15 2008, 09:46 PM   #98
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... I'm not sure I like the idea of young Kirk driving an antique Mustang off a cliff...
I agree that the driving the car-off-the-cliff scene really set the wrong tone for that trailer. The trailer would have been much better without it.

I'm just worried that the car-off-the-cliff scene will also set the wrong tone for the film, and that the film will suffer because of it.
I still think it is an excellent hook. Get the non-Trek fans interested before they even know it is Trek. A successful trailer will do this.
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Old November 15 2008, 09:48 PM   #99
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Ditto... I was laughing too hard to respond until now. Reminds me of Mars Attacks!
LOL.

Ive only just noticed it.

I wasnt paying attention until Shatners face appeared, scowling at me. Then i watched the animation again and couldnt stop laughing at it, its excellent.
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I have deep reservations about the movie and fears, but I don't think the trailer sinks or swims it for me. Only seeing the film in a theater next May and/or June will accomplish that for me, and I hold out all final judgments on TREK episodes and films until I actually get to see them with my own two eyes. The trailer is flashy and serviceable and looks neat. Does that mean the movie will rock? Not necessarily. But my reservations don't mean it WON'T be fun as hell and memorable either.
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Old November 15 2008, 10:01 PM   #101
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The trailer certainly is busy, but still looks pretty good. The new 1701 looks better as I see it from more angles, even if the nacelles are, in fact, as close together as it seemed in the first trailer.
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Old November 15 2008, 10:03 PM   #102
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Ditto... I was laughing too hard to respond until now. Reminds me of Mars Attacks!
LOL.

Ive only just noticed it.

I wasnt paying attention until Shatners face appeared, scowling at me. Then i watched the animation again and couldnt stop laughing at it, its excellent.
Thanks.
...and along with Mars Attacks, I was also reminded of The Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the Donald Sutherland, Jeff Goldblum, and Leonard Nimoy version).
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Old November 15 2008, 10:04 PM   #103
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As for the 'antique cars' - Trek has often wrongly left the impression that because a new tech comes along old technology must therefore become extinct. Not how it tends to work, the old and new tend to coexist and if some of it has a fashionable quality such as cars so much the better.

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The only exceptions to that were: Kirk collecting antiques and Paris working on old cars. I do agree with you that somehow Trek has mostly given the impression of "that's outdated, let's ignore it".
The TNG episode "Relics" is good because it cofronts this issue head on: People can become relics, not just inanimate objects.
I don't know how much I would agree with that, while of curse for the most part it shows the cast using modern (for them) technology. But pretty much each cast has featured characters that favor the old in some way over the new. Picard and his family seemed far more old school then new, not to mention his use of real books. Sisko loved real cooking instead of technology enhanced cooking, Paris knew the 20th century for auto's, Trip loved old cinema. And what little we actually saw on earth, still had earth much the way it is today, a mix of the old and the new. But as a huge amount of Trek was ship based we only could see what few personal items people are allowed. On TNG we often saw the cast (and various ones at that) using authentic musical instruments instead of computerized ones (the main exception was the keyboard and that was explained away about its not easy to carry a piano around with you. On earth Or Bajor (even Vulcan) we still see societies making use of old technology's and infrastructure.
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^Good points, mswood. Something to think about.
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