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View Poll Results: Grade "Abyss"
SUPER 8 32.00%
Above Average 10 40.00%
Average 2 8.00%
Below Average 2 8.00%
BIZARRO 3 12.00%
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Old November 15 2008, 04:24 PM   #76
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Re: Smallville 8x09 "Abyss" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS>

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For the most part it was a good episode.I really like this season of Smallville.

But it is Smallville and it seems stupidity can not be avoided.
Making Chloe forget all about CK and his abilities is one of most, if not The Most idiotic thing this show has done so far.
I can only hope it's temporary.

BIZARRO just for that
I feel the same way. This season has been extremely entertaining and on the whole light years better than some of the previous years... but the Chloe thing was like... "hey, remember the old Smalllville, full of rampant contrived stupidity??? HERE'S A REMINDER!!!"
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Old November 15 2008, 05:16 PM   #77
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Re: Smallville 8x09 "Abyss" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS>

Damn it, I just voted super when I meant to vote BIZARRO - and that's for the same reasons as stated above. Chloe losing her memory of Clark's abilities is a dumb, dumb move.
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Old November 16 2008, 01:14 AM   #78
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I thought it was a great episode. Allison Mack was terrific (and looked great to boot) as we slowly see Chloe losing her memories. Once again, this episode shows the benefit of focusing on less characters. Basically, it shows how good this show is when Lois is not there. SW continues to be awesome as Davis and even Jimmy comes across as likeable. Thought those kids did a very good job as Chloe and Clark.

I thought seeing Clark and Jor-El work together was awesome though Brainiac might be the worst kind of villain to get rid of. Nothing keeps this guy down.

I understand why Clark wanted to free Chloe of the burden of his identity but it is absolutely wrong to take someone's memories without their permission. Chloe flat out told Clark that this gave her life purpose in helping people and Clark took that away from her. It also creates a bunch of other problems...one, doesn't think mean she doesn't remember the identitites of Ollie and the rest of the JLA? She was an important assest to them and Clark took that away. Also...shouldn't Chloe have large gaps in her memory or did Jor-El compensate for that?

I'm withholding final judgment on this though because I'm sure Chloe will regain her memory at some point. It might spell the doom (no pun intended) for the Clark/Chloe relationship because I can't imagine her being happy with Clark's actions.

I have to say, between the more pro-active Clark, the lack of Lana hanging over him, and the Doomsday storyline, Smallville has managed to do a great job putting this season together.
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Old November 16 2008, 01:18 AM   #79
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I'll say one thing...this Doomsday storyline is progressing a lot better and more logically than that whole mess of a Veritas storyline.
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Old November 16 2008, 03:05 AM   #80
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Dear Lord, that mess. Then they tried to sell it like they were "building it up from the beginning."

Well if that were really the case, why was it so fucking haphazard?!
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Old November 16 2008, 03:10 AM   #81
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Re: Smallville 8x09 "Abyss" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS>

About that.

A terrible gap in my Latin.

I was watching Sliders the other day and John Rhys Davies is getting sauced in a pub, when he proclaims that reasons why all their friendships had been falling apart of late by issuing the maxim In Vino Veritas, which of course means "In wine truth"... OH!!

Did i miss the episode of Smallville where they defined the word for those of us without a first grade education?

Of course later on there's another episode of Sliders called IN Dino Veritas. They battle Dinosaurs.
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Old November 16 2008, 03:18 AM   #82
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I was gonna go with "average" ( ) but went with SUPER because of the last few minutes. Most of the episode was good with lots of Chloe, but not great. Then we got a pretty good ending with Davis trying to wrestle Chloe away from Jimmy. That got my interest. Then we have the supposed Chloe memory reset. That was something, but I think she'll get her memories of Clark back, maybe next week or sooon after. I got the feeling that this is part of a mini arc.

By the way, this episode reminded me of The Forgotten in some places. I wonder if that was an inspiration for this episode.

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For a second I thought Marsters would show up...
I thought that was BRAINIAC walking up to Chloe when she was having another episode, but it was Davis.

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Ah, Jimmy being dumb and Jealous as usual.
I thought he acted pretty well and came off as pretty confident and secure for someone who has two hot guys after his girl.
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Old November 16 2008, 03:35 AM   #83
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OK I just got to watch this episode between WPIX showing the Jets game Thursday and working all weekend!!!! Anyway I voted above average. Most of the episode was great, I agree with Guy the young Clark/Chloe was really cute. My only gripe was Chloe's memory wipe!!! (yeah I can rhyme). That was LAME!! The lamest lame thing from the highest peak of Mount Lame!!! I do agree that she will get those memories back or revealed to her. Ollie or Lana (not as hot as Chloe,and way overrated) or someone will spill the beans. Next week looks like the bomb though can't wait.
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Old November 16 2008, 03:44 AM   #84
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I actually agree with Othello. Chloe was a minor, non-canon character that was never supposed to become so important. She was only supposed to be the exposition character, who spells out whatever the audience is (apparently) too dumb to figure out on their own. Superman doesn't have a sidekick, and never needed one,but somehow once she found out, she made herself that, and proceeded to take over thinking for him. That's bad.

This, however long it lasts, will be a good thing for him. It will force him to USE that Kryptonian brain of his. Kara showed us what could be done with one (sucks that she was cut out). I don't know if Chloe will or will not get the memories back, but it's long past time for the apron strings to be cut.

As for the holes in her memory, I'm hoping for a scene sometime that addresses that. If it doesn't bother her now, it should at some point. There 's a lot of stuff that won't add up (like why Lex fired her). But this is Smallville so I don't hold out much hope for that.
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Old November 16 2008, 04:41 AM   #85
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^ That is a good point. This could help to push Clark toward his destiny.
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Old November 16 2008, 08:38 AM   #86
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Chloe losing her memory of Clark's abilities is a dumb, dumb move.
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Old November 16 2008, 12:46 PM   #87
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Old November 16 2008, 01:17 PM   #88
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Chloe losing her memory of Clark's abilities is a dumb, dumb move.
Patience, grasshopper ... patience ...

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Offtopic...That avatar hermiod.

What did Brock Lesnar win ? Haven't watched this stuff in ages
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Old November 16 2008, 04:50 PM   #89
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A spot on the Vikings roster.

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Old November 16 2008, 05:41 PM   #90
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Offtopic...That avatar hermiod.

What did Brock Lesnar win ? Haven't watched this stuff in ages
Lesnar beat Randy Couture (second round TKO) to become the UFC World Heavyweight Champion at UFC 91 last night.
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