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Old November 12 2008, 12:51 AM   #151
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

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As a designer... I do not like it. If this was a New Trek movie with a new crew..I would ok with. It could have been set in TMP Era..It would fit as a new ship, but why make a movie and call it a TOS Movie and change everything that fans loved about TOS trek?

On top of that, make it hard for fans to try to fit it in the cannon of the series. I see it hard to have this ship be refit to the REAL TOS Ship.

I am sorry, As a fan of all the movies and series, I will not pay to see this movie, I respect all the other people who will, but again as a fan for all of my life, I had to say something.

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So you think this design is less valid than something built 40 years ago with the cheapest materials GR and company could find. The TV version of the ship looked like it did because that was what they could afford. Now I'm not trying to sound like a broken record here but it's a solid design it envokes the TOS Enterprise, it looks a HELL of alot better than the model from the sixties and anyone expecting the ship to look like it did on tv is just fooling themselves. Period.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:51 AM   #152
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

I am starting to like her, but then again I did like the 1701-E & NX-01 so what do I know.

To answer Meredith I do see 701 just past the deflector so I'm thinking this is it. Can't wait to see it in a fight.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:52 AM   #153
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

The more I look at her, the more I like her, even though I do like the photoshop manip that pushes the secondary hull back a little.

Other then that, I can deal with it. I find if funny about everyone bitching about the nacelles, thats the part of the ship I really like.

I think the key with it is it ENVOKES the TOS enterprise, without being a direct copy. I really am starting to like it.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:53 AM   #154
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

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As a designer, I think this will do fine. It's a lot better than the Enterprise-E. I'd like to see a comparison pic with the NX-01 to see if there is an obvious evolution anywhere. I'd also like to hear an opinion from uber-designers Mr. Probert and Mr. Sternbach, if they are lurking about. I know that both are too gentlemanly to be outright critical, but a designers impression would be much appreciated from both.
Rick posted over at trekmovie and said he was mildly disappointed but didn't elaborate much further. I'd find you the quote, but the site's broken at the moment.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:53 AM   #155
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

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I am starting to like her, but then again I did like the 1701-E & NX-01 so what do I know.
I did too. I don't mind change as long as its positive. To me, this isn't.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:54 AM   #156
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

I want to like it. It has a 50s car aesthetic to it, which as prequel to a 60s show I think was the right instinct.

But there's something... well, butt freakin' ugly about it.

Overall, meh. Maybe it'll grow on me.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:55 AM   #157
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

I like it.

I've always loved the original Enterprise, but this is a very acceptable update. In a way, I think we've always accepted the TOS-E because we never saw her DO anything other than just fly by. It was because of budget limitations, I feel.

Even when we saw her in TOS-R or as the Defiant on ENT, she never really gave me the impression she was all that manuverable. This ship looks like she can MOVE.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:55 AM   #158
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

I've seen a lot of comments about "chrome" nacelle caps but I have to say I think they look more like highly reflective glass.

Can't make up my mind overall. I don't hate it.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:56 AM   #159
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I've seen a lot of comments about "chrome" nacelle caps but I have to say I think they look more like highly reflective glass.

Can't make up my mind overall. I don't hate it.
I don't see chrome either. It looks like black glass to me.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:57 AM   #160
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

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I am starting to like her, but then again I did like the 1701-E & NX-01 so what do I know.
I did too. I don't mind change as long as its positive. To me, this isn't.
I don't see any negative changes... the ship looks more functional and sturdier. Like it could possibly survive the stress placed on it in orbit or at high warp speeds. Looking back at the "ruler" pylons from TOS they look very frail.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:57 AM   #161
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

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All I can say is this, she is growing on me. And I have done a few quick doodles of a side view based on this photo, and the proportions, from I can judge, aren't bad.
I tried the same thing, and you're right. The profile when you draw it out actually looks pretty good.

The tapered nacelles and curved struts really balance out the design, so you don't really notice the secondary hull sticking forward so much.
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Old November 12 2008, 12:58 AM   #162
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

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As a designer... I do not like it. If this was a New Trek movie with a new crew..I would ok with. It could have been set in TMP Era..It would fit as a new ship, but why make a movie and call it a TOS Movie and change everything that fans loved about TOS trek?

On top of that, make it hard for fans to try to fit it in the cannon of the series. I see it hard to have this ship be refit to the REAL TOS Ship.

I am sorry, As a fan of all the movies and series, I will not pay to see this movie, I respect all the other people who will, but again as a fan for all of my life, I had to say something.

Thanks
So you think this design is less valid than something built 40 years ago with the cheapest materials GR and company could find. The TV version of the ship looked like it did because that was what they could afford. Now I'm not trying to sound like a broken record here but it's a solid design it envokes the TOS Enterprise, it looks a HELL of alot better than the model from the sixties and anyone expecting the ship to look like it did on tv is just fooling themselves. Period.

Here is a version that a fan made that gave it a update in more details on the ship, but also kept the TOS true. I am saying don't make a movie and call it TOS Movie and not keep true to it. I am all for a star trek movie, and they have tons of Trek history to play with. You can set this ship in a few years after TMP or Star Trek 6 with a new crew. You could have kept spock in the movie..etc but why remake something we love and make it hard to have it fit with TOS.


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Old November 12 2008, 12:59 AM   #163
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

Pretty nice. Stop being anal, y'all. It works.
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Old November 12 2008, 01:03 AM   #164
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Re: Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

It looks like the warp nacelles are different compared to ones on the Enterprise in the teaser trailer.
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Old November 12 2008, 01:03 AM   #165
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The only question I have, is why didn't they stylize the SAUCER more? Compared to the rest of the ship, it looks awfully plain and traditional...
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