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Old November 11 2008, 02:56 PM   #16
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

^ You're definitely gonna have to get more info about Sky+ HD from someone else.
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Old November 11 2008, 06:53 PM   #17
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

Here's the (not-so) short version:

If you're going to view from 20 ft away, you need to go big. kinda doubt you're really 20 ft away (that's a LOT), but even if you're 14ft away or more, you gotta go with either a 46" or 52" tv if you want to make out any sort of level of detail.

Circuit City going out of buisness sales are unlikely to be any help for you. They get bought out by a liquidation company, which marks everything up, and then slowly brings it down with % off. If it JUST started the sell-off, you can get better deals elsewhere. If it's been going on a while, the price might be ok, but the decent stuff is long gone. Better off with the Black Friday (day after Thanksgiving) sales, or anytime betwen now and Christmas is supposed to be good this year due to over-supply in the TV market with the down economy.

LCD would be my recommendation. Can plug the computer in directly with a VGA (monitor) cable connection, will look exactly like a regular computer monitor. They'll all have USB connections, but mostly just to put a thumb drive in for a picture show or whatnot. I've never used mine, aside from a firmware update. Get the 1080p tv. You can save money by getting 720p if it's an issue, but why get one that's already out of date, and with blu-ray as an option, and even cable tv at 1080i, no reason to limit yourself, considering how cheap the tvs are getting.

With a small child, why NOT put it on the wall? Would prevent them from touching it, smearing the screen, hitting it with things, knocking it onto themselves, etc. I'd definitely recommend that, if you have a space that can support it. Better visability from a distance, as well.

If you're deadset on NOT putting it on the wall, and you have decent floorspace, I don't think the LCD vs Plasma debate is something you should be talking about. Given your distance from the TV and your desire for it to not be on the wall, a DLP (thin projection) tv is probably the answer for you. You can get these cheaper than the thin tvs, and in larger sizes. For the price of my 46" LCD, a friend of mine got a 60" Sony DLP, and it looks great. It worked in his living room whereas I had to hang mine on the wall, so I couldn't do the same tv, so it's definitely a matter of the room setup. But given what you've said, could be the answer. Same HD screen resolution, not as thick as old projections, better viewing angle. And much cheaper if you want a big screen, compared to LCD/Plasma tv sets.

For example (and this is the first site I looked at, didn't comparison shop or check more prices), BestBuy has a 56" Samsung Slim-Depth DLP TV HL56A650 (1080p) for $1200. It's on sale, but even regular price is $1499, so with a little deal shopping, can find a good deal on that. Depends on how you feel about brands (Samsung is a pretty good one), what you want to spend, size you need, etc. That tv would probably be where I'd start...
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Old November 11 2008, 07:27 PM   #18
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

Thanks everyone for your input. Please keep it coming!

We would use the USB for family photos & movies...we would watch them far more than an HD show. It'll be a while before we get a Blu Ray player.

Scout101,

Thanks especially for your answer. (If you have a long version -- i'd appreciate it too!).

Yes, our living room is really that long -- it's the front of a Chicago bungalow. The middle space is generally "play space", with the couch & TV on opposite walls.


Thanks for the starting price -- anyone else have thoughts on what size should be what price?

Thanks!
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Old November 11 2008, 07:36 PM   #19
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

^ I have no idea about prices in US, but I agree with everyone saying you should get a big TV. I sit 8 feet away from mine, and I got a 46" LCD. I would have gotten a 52", but I don't have the room for it.

So yeah, I agree with Scout101 that you should look at DLPs. They're much more stable compared to LCDs and plasmas (so your child won't be able to knock it over) and they're also much cheaper. As for size... I'd suggest you got for a 60" if you can afford.
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Old November 11 2008, 07:43 PM   #20
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I just bought a couple of these and am quite pleased. No tuner, but that's what the cable box is for.

http://www.buy.com/prod/new-westingh...205467075.html
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Old November 11 2008, 07:47 PM   #21
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

another suggestion would be (and dunno if it would work with your room setup) to put the couch in the middle of the room facing the tv, which would create a 'tv area' and a 'play area' behind that. 20 ft away is a lot for tv watching. But yes, a 55-60" DLP tv definitely sounds like your best bet. And instead of being worried about the USB ports, plug in a laptop or an old PC and use that for movie and/or picture viewing. You'll be happier with the results, and as I said, if you get a VGA cable to connect them with, it'll look exactly like a monitor for your computer...
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Old November 11 2008, 08:35 PM   #22
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

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Best bet is stay with brand names - Samsung, Sharp, Toshiba, Sony are all good bets. I'm not so crazy about Vizeo or Olivia.

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The brand name TVs you listed are all very good. I just want to add that we have an Olevia 32" LCD in our bedroom, that's been operating for over two years now. I would estimate that it's on 6-8 hours a day, everyday. The picture is very clear. The colors are very vibrant. The blacks are decent.

The only thing I dislike about the TV is the annoying bright blue LED, that turns on when the TV is turned to off/standby. At night it seemed like a floodlight was shining in my eyes. I ended up putting black tape over the thing.
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Old November 11 2008, 11:59 PM   #23
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

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^ Certain TVs allow you to play pictures and/or mp3s from USB flash drives.
More than that...I know of several friends that have wired their TV's into their pc's...of course they have terrabytes of, uh, for grown up's only material on their hard drives (no pun intended), but there you go...saves on storage space I suppose.
I use my AppleTV for this purpose.
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Old November 16 2008, 12:05 AM   #24
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

So what kind of target price should I look for after Thanksgiving?

For a 46"?

50"?

55"?

60"?


Thanks..
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Old November 16 2008, 12:09 AM   #25
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I have no idea about prices in US, but I agree with everyone saying you should get a big TV. I sit 8 feet away from mine, and I got a 46" LCD. I would have gotten a 52", but I don't have the room for it.

So yeah, I agree with Scout101 that you should look at DLPs. They're much more stable compared to LCDs and plasmas (so your child won't be able to knock it over) and they're also much cheaper. As for size... I'd suggest you got for a 60" if you can afford.
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Old November 16 2008, 11:29 AM   #26
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So what kind of target price should I look for after Thanksgiving?

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Here is a quote from editors of Dealnews, they track sales and prices year round --
We spent a lot of time comparing current price trends on TVs this year with the trends that led up to Black Friday of last year. Our conclusion is, if you've been waiting to upgrade your TV, this holiday season is the time to do it. With the switch to digital broadcasting looming, retailers will be pulling out all of the stops for your HDTV dough. If you're on a budget, consider a plasma display instead of an LCD display — inch for inch, they tend to be cheaper. In fact, we predict a 42" 720p plasma HDTV for as little as $499. A $699 50" plasma HDTV is also quite likely, although we're not expecting huge discounts on larger plasma screens.

LCD prices will remain higher than plasma, but they'll still dip considerably, with generic 42" 720p LCD HDTVs going for $599. Additionally, look for name-brand 46" or 47" 1080p LCD HDTVs to hit $799, and larger 52" 1080p HDTVs to drop to $1,199.

Before you buy a TV on Black Friday, consider this: Last year, the best time to buy a good TV wasn't on Black Friday. It was three weeks before Christmas. At that time, Fry's and Amazon went to war on high-end LCD HDTVs (most notably Samsung 1080p 120Hz LCD TVs from 40" and up), slashing prices again and again. You know it's a big deal when dealnews' own cheapskate editors bring out their wallets and start buying TVs. The general rule is, Black Friday is the best time of the year to buy no-name TVs. December is the best time to buy high-end TVs.

Summary: Black Friday Predictions for LCD & Plasma TVs

42" 720p plasma HDTV for $499
50" 720p plasma HDTV for $699
42" 720p LCD HDTVs for $599
46" or 47" brand-name 1080p LCD HDTVs for $799
52" 1080p HDTVs for $1,199
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Old November 17 2008, 12:16 AM   #27
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not really a target price point so much as what you want and can afford. As I've said, I think DLP is the best solution for your setup, so read reviews (avsforum.com is an excellent resource) and pick the model you think is the best, and the right size (really 55"-60" sounds right for your setup), and then check out the websites of the electronics companies in the area so you can get an idea of prices. When it goes lower (and agree that December is probably better than Thanksgiving), buy it.
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Old November 27 2008, 07:00 PM   #28
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

So does anyone have any thoughts as to to timing (i.e. which day in December, before Christmas) should i look to buy?

And where to buy? i am leaning to Best Buy, as I have a coupon & gift cards...are there any other thoughts?

Some factors in mind....we spend a lot of time at work (or traveling back & forth) & have a child...so we don't have as much freedom timewise then in other situations.

Thanks for your thoughts....
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Old November 28 2008, 07:54 AM   #29
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Re: Need advice in buying a new TV...

I hope you don't mind, Morpheus, if I pop in with a question of my own.

Our TV has just died (we think; there's a possibility it might come back), but there isn't exactly a lot of money in the bank and we can't afford anything much more than CDN$500; $699 would probably be just pushing it. From the small amount of browsing online, that looks to mean a 720p set. Is it really such a crappy deal if we got one of those instead of a 1080? We aren't looking at a Blu-Ray player in the near future, so right now it would only be up-converting from a standard DVD player.

ETA: Oh, and it would be a 30-35" screen. Don't really need bigger than that.
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Old November 28 2008, 08:01 AM   #30
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^ Honestly, 1080p on anything smaller then 40" is totally useless (unless you're gonna be watching it from like four feet away). So yeah, get a 720p set and don't worry about it.
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