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Old January 14 2009, 09:49 AM   #76
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Hmm... wonder whats in sector 000, I would assume there is one.
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Old January 14 2009, 11:41 AM   #77
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The idea that having a registry starting with zero means the writer and director don't know what they are doing is so laughable, it's not either worth discussing....
Especially since Enterprise made such registry numbers canonical years ago. The final episode of The Next Generation also made odd-numbered nacelles canonical, as did a few kit-bashes throughout the franchise.

I personally think the Kelvin looks silly with only one nacelle, but I don't see anything wrong with it having only one.
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Old January 14 2009, 12:50 PM   #78
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The idea that having a registry starting with zero means the writer and director don't know what they are doing is so laughable, it's not either worth discussing....
Especially since Enterprise made such registry numbers canonical years ago. The final episode of The Next Generation also made odd-numbered nacelles canonical, as did a few kit-bashes throughout the franchise.

I personally think the Kelvin looks silly with only one nacelle, but I don't see anything wrong with it having only one.
It was cannon long before enterprise went on the air too

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Freedom_class

It's on screen, there for it's legit. The Cannon Bible Thumpers don't have much of an argument for the one nacelle issue.
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Old January 14 2009, 03:59 PM   #79
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If they weren't supposed to look like uniforms, then why does that Air Force Major recognize Kirk's get-up as a uniform?
He says something like "Is that supposed to be some kind of uniform?" I'd think that the rank braid on the sleeves is what suggested that to him.
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Old January 14 2009, 08:15 PM   #80
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Maybe they added the 0 prefix to registry numbers on all ships when the 1000th ship came out.
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Old January 14 2009, 08:58 PM   #81
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Maybe they added the 0 prefix to registry numbers on all ships when the 1000th ship came out.
And then later thought it looked silly, or they just wanted to change it up again by the time of TSFS. I'm fine with this. Any seconds?
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Old January 15 2009, 12:13 AM   #82
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Maybe they added the 0 prefix to registry numbers on all ships when the 1000th ship came out.
USS Grissom only had a three digit registry, despite being in service after the 1000th ship.
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Old January 15 2009, 12:22 AM   #83
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Maybe they added the 0 prefix to registry numbers on all ships when the 1000th ship came out.
USS Grissom only had a three digit registry, despite being in service after the 1000th ship.
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Old January 15 2009, 01:01 AM   #84
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So maybe the Kelvin is design # 05, model 14, whereas the Grissom was design # 63, model 8. Or maybe Starfleet requires a minimum 4-digit registry for ships of the line and not for science ships. There are ways to rationalize it. I get your point but I wouldn't get hung on that one thing when there are so many other things to nitpick.

Oh yeah, uniforms.

I wouldn't count on the Kelvin uniforms looking that much like those from 'The Cage.' Just my thought. They probably will seem more sweater-y like 'The Cage' ones did in comparison, but I don't think they'll be direct retreads. I'd also like to echo and agree what Cary L. Brown said upthread about the velour of TOS and its reimagined counterpart being a Class B uniform compared to the fancier stuff.
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Old January 15 2009, 01:42 AM   #85
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Didn't this article already show us what the Kelvin crew will be wearing, as seen on the Intel site?

They don't look like Cage-era uniforms. They look like they're simpler in design than the TOS-era uniforms. They look not unlike the "All Good Things..." uniforms. They're probably a single color, dependent on department color. Blue or black appear to be command, gold or mustard appears to be for helmsmen, and George Kirk appears to be wearing black (definitely a darker shirt than Robau). That might be a clue as to why Jim Kirk is wearing black in much of the movie.
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Old January 15 2009, 01:46 AM   #86
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Maybe they added the 0 prefix to registry numbers on all ships when the 1000th ship came out.
USS Grissom only had a three digit registry, despite being in service after the 1000th ship.

You really need to let this go, man.
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Old January 15 2009, 02:08 AM   #87
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The Kelvin uniforms do look like the Cage uniforms, similar those worn by the crew of the SS Colombia. Besides, didn't we already get a good look at these (Kelvin) uniforms way back in the first spy photos? Weren't they the grey SW types?
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Old January 15 2009, 07:01 AM   #88
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The Kelvin uniforms do look like the Cage uniforms, similar those worn by the crew of the SS Colombia. Besides, didn't we already get a good look at these (Kelvin) uniforms way back in the first spy photos? Weren't they the grey SW types?
You mean the Corporate Headquarters/Starfleet Academy pics, showing people in red, gray and black uniforms? I'd assume that those were supposed to have been set more than two decades after the events involving the Kelvin.
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Old January 15 2009, 03:33 PM   #89
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I think TIN_MAN is referring to even earlier spy photos from the previous fall.
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Old January 15 2009, 06:38 PM   #90
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Okay, I remember those. Difficult to make out much, though, and the accompanying article doesn't mention grey in the colors they gave:

All of the “extras” are required to wear long black trench coats to cover the costumes but even then a few details were still revealed. If you look closely you will see some of the colors of the costumes. The colors visible are blue, red, dark green and white. Some one of the costumes’ cuff areas had a yellow or gold band around it. From what we can see they are somewhat reminiscent of the original costumes, at least the colors, just not so bright.
Does make a possible match with what little we've seen of the Kelvin uniform colors, though.

That doesn't look like a soundstage door, but I remember hearing something months back about an "industrial location" being used for the Enterprise Engineering sets. Perhaps the Kelvin sets were also in the same spot?
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