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Old October 28 2008, 09:34 PM   #91
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Re: Empire Magazine pics!

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AAGGH! I'm talking about the starfield not the f***ing light strip.
Yes, you are seeing the starfield through the reflected inside of the window-frame. It's not that difficult to see...
Yeah, you're right, It's a frame. Inner frame, not outer.

The window is a lie!
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Old October 28 2008, 09:37 PM   #92
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The fact that you can see the hull of the ship is what gives it a window effect. Without that, it would seem more like a typical viewer just with some additional images overlaid.
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Old October 28 2008, 09:39 PM   #93
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No, he means the stuff in the red boxes above.
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Old October 28 2008, 09:39 PM   #94
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Also, considering it is the only thing between them and space... maybe multiple layers is a good thing.
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Old October 28 2008, 09:40 PM   #95
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ancient wrote: View Post
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AAGGH! I'm talking about the starfield not the f***ing light strip.
Yes, you are seeing the starfield through the reflected inside of the window-frame. It's not that difficult to see...
Yeah, you're right, It's a frame. Inner frame, not outer.

The window is a lie!
Why is it a lie?
The frame is angled upwards and to the sides on the inside of the hull, the same is probably true for the outside of the hull, and that is why we cant see the outside-frame...
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Old October 28 2008, 09:43 PM   #96
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Yes, you are seeing the starfield through the reflected inside of the window-frame. It's not that difficult to see...
Yeah, you're right, It's a frame. Inner frame, not outer.

The window is a lie!
Why is it a lie?
The frame is angled upwards and to the sides on the inside of the hull, the same is probably true for the outside of the hull, and that is why we cant see the outside-frame...
There seems to be no indication that the viewer is a window now, to me. It could be, but there doesn't seem to be anything implying such.
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Old October 28 2008, 09:48 PM   #97
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The fact that you can see the hull of the ship is what gives it a window effect. Without that, it would seem more like a typical viewer just with some additional images overlaid.
You can see the hull. It is somewhat visible. The first sixth or eighth of the viewer window shows the hull. You can clearly see "NCC"
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Old October 28 2008, 09:48 PM   #98
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ancient wrote: View Post
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AAGGH! I'm talking about the starfield not the f***ing light strip.
Yes, you are seeing the starfield through the reflected inside of the window-frame. It's not that difficult to see...
Yeah, you're right, It's a frame. Inner frame, not outer.

The window is a lie!
I noticed what you did, too. Bothered the heck out of me.

And, it's not the frame. Look at it again closely. It's the glass (or whatever) itself, but it's tinted. Notice the light blue line in particular. Follow it around the window (or whatever). The stars are not reflections, but are being seen through the tinted part of this window/view screen.
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Old October 28 2008, 09:49 PM   #99
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"For me, the costumes were a microcosm of the entire project, which was how to take something that's kind of silly and make it feel real. But how do you make legitimate those near-primary colour costumes? How do you make legitimate the pointy ears and the bowl haircut? It's ridiculous and as potentially cliched as it gets. How do you watch Galaxy Quest and then go make a Star Trek movie?"
With this attitude, he shouldn't have been let anywhere near Star Trek.

Next time, they need to get Richard Donner.
I'll be honest...

There really hasn't been an instance where I've read something that J.J. Abrams said and thought "Wow. That was really insightful."

The guy may be one of the most creative, talented people in Hollywood, but he doesn't really strike me as being particularly well-spoken. Just an observation. Of course, this won't matter one lick if Trek turns out to be as good as it has looked so far.

Truthfully, Abrams is probably more of a visual communicator than a verbal one. But, point is: Ron Moore, he's not.
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Old October 28 2008, 09:49 PM   #100
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Isn't it possible in the Trek universe to manufacture a material that only allows visible light through in one direction? Sort of like a diode only lets current flow in one direction? From the outside, such a "window" would look solid, possibly like a solid black rectangle (as seen in "The Cage") or no different from the rest of the hull.
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Old October 28 2008, 09:53 PM   #101
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The fact that you can see the hull of the ship is what gives it a window effect. Without that, it would seem more like a typical viewer just with some additional images overlaid.
You can see the hull. It is somewhat visible. The first sixth or eighth of the viewer window shows the hull. You can clearly see "NCC"
Yeah, that's what I said, you can see the hull of the ship. That's what gives the impression it is a window and not just the viewer showing space with some random read-outs on top.
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Old October 28 2008, 09:56 PM   #102
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Here... Let me mess with your heads, guys...

Holotank? Maybe it's a 3D hologram projector for the viewscreen.
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Old October 28 2008, 10:07 PM   #103
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Whatever it is, it looks fucking awesome. And Quinto is totally working the Spock look. I can't wait to hear him say, "Jim, that's highly illogical."
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Old October 28 2008, 10:07 PM   #104
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"For me, the costumes were a microcosm of the entire project, which was how to take something that's kind of silly and make it feel real. But how do you make legitimate those near-primary colour costumes? How do you make legitimate the pointy ears and the bowl haircut? It's ridiculous and as potentially cliched as it gets. How do you watch Galaxy Quest and then go make a Star Trek movie?"
With this attitude, he shouldn't have been let anywhere near Star Trek.
I AM kinda worried about his attitude toward Star Trek in general, but I'll give him a shot. Every preview review we've heard so far has been stellar.
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Old October 28 2008, 10:16 PM   #105
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"For me, the costumes were a microcosm of the entire project, which was how to take something that's kind of silly and make it feel real. But how do you make legitimate those near-primary colour costumes? How do you make legitimate the pointy ears and the bowl haircut? It's ridiculous and as potentially cliched as it gets. How do you watch Galaxy Quest and then go make a Star Trek movie?"
With this attitude, he shouldn't have been let anywhere near Star Trek.
I AM kinda worried about his attitude toward Star Trek in general, but I'll give him a shot. Every preview review we've heard so far has been stellar.
I don't know, sounds like a reasonable concern to have when making a Trek movie. Abrams is just coming at it from the viewpoint of the general public, which unfortunately DOES see Trek as pretty silly and ridiculous.

If this movie has any chance at being a success, it's got to appeal to more than just the diehard Trek fans.
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