Angel: After the Fall -- 13

tharpdevenport · October 28 2008, 02:00 AM

Just got it today.

Like I said before, it's extremely obvious where Joss is putting all his effort into when you read BTVS S8, Serenity, and Angel at for a few months.

Angels is almost everything it could have been, while Buffy is so bad I think thinking about stop buying it and selling my S8 collection. And the art work is dreadful.

After reading #13, I am left with one thought: WHOA -- exactly what the fuck just happened with Spike?

FALCONX0N · October 28 2008, 03:01 AM

I have to admit, I about dropped the book when Spike...

...or maybe not. This series has me guessing again, and that's fantastic!

Thrall · October 28 2008, 07:28 AM

These spoilers make me so happy I could cry.

Ethros · October 28 2008, 03:00 PM

Did you actually read to the end of the issue?

Not really seeing the problem with the artwork in Buffy s8 myself. I like it, but its nowhere near as good as Angel:ATF
Takes too long for anything to frakking happen. In Angel's 13 issues about 10 times as much stuff has happened than in Buffy's 18

Btw, the final part of Spike: After The Fall (#4) is out on Wednesday 29 Oct

tharpdevenport · October 28 2008, 05:52 PM

Ethros wrote:

Did you actually read to the end of the issue?

Not really seeing the problem with the artwork in Buffy s8 myself. I like it, but its nowhere near as good as Angel:ATF
Takes too long for anything to frakking happen. In Angel's 13 issues about 10 times as much stuff has happened than in Buffy's 18

Btw, the final part of Spike: After The Fall (#4) is out on Wednesday 29 Oct

Oh, I read the whole issues, it's just:

But an even BETTER question is:

Capt_Piett · October 28 2008, 08:20 PM

I just don't want Illyria to be killed. I like her character too muc to see her written out. Fred, I feel had a good send off in Hole in the World. Not to mention we saw in the series and the Illyria one shot that Fred was "infecting" Illyria and making her more human.

Admiral_Young · October 28 2008, 11:21 PM

Damn I have to purchase the first two hardcover volumes soon. Shouldn't have clicked on those spoilers...

doubleohfive · October 28 2008, 11:43 PM

I stopped collecting after issue five.... I really need to start catching up!

Trent Roman · October 29 2008, 12:29 AM

Admiral_Young wrote:

Damn I have to purchase the first two hardcover volumes soon. Shouldn't have clicked on those spoilers...

I'm still waiting for the trade paperbacks. Every time I pass by the hardcovers, I'm tempted to open them up and read there and then in the bookstore... my resilience is slowly wearing away.

Creditorly yours, the Rent Woman

Ethros · October 29 2008, 12:48 AM

^ What's wrong with getting the hardcovers? They really are a work of art. Really beautifully presented, great extras- scripts, all the covers, sketches, original ideas, etc. There's even a bookmark

One thing I love about Angel: ATF is the awesome covers of late. Notably the Alex Garner ones. Excellent

Trent Roman · October 29 2008, 04:30 AM

Ethros wrote:

^ What's wrong with getting the hardcovers?

I hate hardcovers. I find them a pain in the ass to read and transport. Also, I have to live frugally, and comics are already a luxury; I can't justify spending more for a product on the basis of format when the content is the same (by which I mean the story - won't much care if the extras don't make it into the trade paperbacks), particularly since I don't care for that format specifically.

Creditorly yours, the Rent Woman

Rowan Sjet · October 29 2008, 07:59 PM

To be honest, I'm not really as into the current Angel (and Spike) comics as the Buffy ones. Sure, a lot of 'cool' stuff's happening, but it just doesn't have the same magic about it. It's like a Michael Bay movie in comparison to Buffy's LotR.

And the artwork doesn't help. When Angel was talking about the room spinning and Gunn was asking what was going on, it took me a while to realise that the slightly more shitty painting style in that frame than the rest of the shitty looking comic meant something was 'going on'.

FALCONX0N · October 30 2008, 02:31 AM

I agree, to a point. I don't think the art is necessarily bad, but it seems to often fail in communicating what's going on properly. Sometimes I need to reread to get the jist of things.

However, as great as the storyline to Buffy S8 is, Angel's metaphorical Season 6 is just so much better. Though with that being said, After the Fall was concieved as more of a mini series, while Buffy Season 8 is, well, season 8...and by my count, around the 6-9 episode mark. Usually where things start to heat up and get to the main plot...

tharpdevenport · October 30 2008, 03:00 AM

Joss should have just kept the same artist from "The Astonishing X-Men"; now he did some very find work that would have really helped BTVS S8.

I've made up my mind, after the next issue, I'm dropping BTVS S8. Probably sell my collection.

October 28 2008, 03:01 AM	#2
FALCONX0N Captain Location: Behind you!	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 I have to admit, I about dropped the book when Spike... was dusted, but then I realized it was from a Slayer- -and that just seemed right. If Spike is ever going to go out, it should be a Slayer that does him in. Poetic, that way. But I think we're supposed to realize that the building Gunn set up- -the Building Gunn inherited, really- -has some sort of immortality curse on it. So when Angel bites it, he'll come back, and maybe that prophecy will reset. Or maybe that's the plan- -when Angel dies, and comes back in that building, he comes back evil, and is on the big scary apocalypse side.... ...or maybe not. This series has me guessing again, and that's fantastic! __________________ "Well, personally? I want to slay the dragon. Lets go to work."--Angel ---- Member of the Church of Bruce Campbell- -"Hail to the King of Men, Baby!"

October 28 2008, 07:28 AM	#3
Thrall Commodore Location: A Quesada Free Zone.	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 These spoilers make me so happy I could cry. __________________ "Spider-Man doesn't have fans. He has people who follow him. Like Jesus. Now I have fans! People who adore and worship every little thing I do or say. Like David Koresh. Or The Jonas Brothers."

October 28 2008, 08:20 PM	#6
Capt_Piett Rear Admiral Location: Bremerton, Washington	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 I just don't want Illyria to be killed. I like her character too muc to see her written out. Fred, I feel had a good send off in Hole in the World. Not to mention we saw in the series and the Illyria one shot that Fred was "infecting" Illyria and making her more human. __________________ "We childproofed our homes, but they are still getting in..."

October 28 2008, 11:21 PM	#7
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 Damn I have to purchase the first two hardcover volumes soon. Shouldn't have clicked on those spoilers... __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

October 28 2008, 11:43 PM	#8
doubleohfive Fleet Admiral Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 I stopped collecting after issue five.... I really need to start catching up! __________________ "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." -Voltaire

STAR TREK

CSI

ABOUT US

October 28 2008, 02:00 AM	#1
tharpdevenport Admiral Location: Click here for super karate monkey death MOD porn!	Angel: After the Fall -- 13 Just got it today. Like I said before, it's extremely obvious where Joss is putting all his effort into when you read BTVS S8, Serenity, and Angel at for a few months. Angels is almost everything it could have been, while Buffy is so bad I think thinking about stop buying it and selling my S8 collection. And the art work is dreadful. After reading #13, I am left with one thought: WHOA -- exactly what the fuck just happened with Spike? __________________ Mr. Signature Number 2 "Are you going to run?" Number 6 "Like blazes! The first chance I get." -Smile! God Loves You! Too bad he doesn't exist, oh and everyone else thinks you're an asshole.

October 28 2008, 03:00 PM	#4
Ethros Vice Admiral Location: 1123 6536 5321	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 Did you actually read to the end of the issue? Spike didn't die. He came back 5 pages from the end. It's something to do with a spell or somesuch at "Hotel Gunn" that brings folk back when they die there. Go back and look at all the previous issues, it's the same three Slayers over and over that Gunn and his minions are killing in the basement (and in Spike: ATF #3 too) Whereas it seems Gwen Raiden and Cordelia the Dragon are dead for real. Felt for poor Cordelia the Dragon though, got the shit ripped out of her! Literally And we'll have to wait and see if Fred is dead again or not next issue. Given the cover it would appear Gunn's plan is to unleash Illyria in her true demonic form. Not really seeing the problem with the artwork in Buffy s8 myself. I like it, but its nowhere near as good as Angel:ATF Takes too long for anything to frakking happen. In Angel's 13 issues about 10 times as much stuff has happened than in Buffy's 18 Btw, the final part of Spike: After The Fall (#4) is out on Wednesday 29 Oct

October 29 2008, 12:48 AM	#10
Ethros Vice Admiral Location: 1123 6536 5321	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 ^ What's wrong with getting the hardcovers? They really are a work of art. Really beautifully presented, great extras- scripts, all the covers, sketches, original ideas, etc. There's even a bookmark One thing I love about Angel: ATF is the awesome covers of late. Notably the Alex Garner ones. Excellent

October 29 2008, 07:59 PM	#12
Rowan Sjet Commodore Location: Away!	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 To be honest, I'm not really as into the current Angel (and Spike) comics as the Buffy ones. Sure, a lot of 'cool' stuff's happening, but it just doesn't have the same magic about it. It's like a Michael Bay movie in comparison to Buffy's LotR. And the artwork doesn't help. When Angel was talking about the room spinning and Gunn was asking what was going on, it took me a while to realise that the slightly more shitty painting style in that frame than the rest of the shitty looking comic meant something was 'going on'. __________________ And the sign said, "Long haired freaky people need not apply..."

October 30 2008, 02:31 AM	#13
FALCONX0N Captain Location: Behind you!	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 I agree, to a point. I don't think the art is necessarily bad, but it seems to often fail in communicating what's going on properly. Sometimes I need to reread to get the jist of things. However, as great as the storyline to Buffy S8 is, Angel's metaphorical Season 6 is just so much better. Though with that being said, After the Fall was concieved as more of a mini series, while Buffy Season 8 is, well, season 8...and by my count, around the 6-9 episode mark. Usually where things start to heat up and get to the main plot... __________________ "Well, personally? I want to slay the dragon. Lets go to work."--Angel ---- Member of the Church of Bruce Campbell- -"Hail to the King of Men, Baby!"

October 30 2008, 03:00 AM	#14
tharpdevenport Admiral Location: Click here for super karate monkey death MOD porn!	Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13 Joss should have just kept the same artist from "The Astonishing X-Men"; now he did some very find work that would have really helped BTVS S8. I've made up my mind, after the next issue, I'm dropping BTVS S8. Probably sell my collection. __________________ Mr. Signature Number 2 "Are you going to run?" Number 6 "Like blazes! The first chance I get." -Smile! God Loves You! Too bad he doesn't exist, oh and everyone else thinks you're an asshole.