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Old October 28 2008, 08:24 PM   #91
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Re: Bridge Layout guess

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Temper, temper, Number 6....
Nothing wrong with my temper. I'm not the one getting bent out of shape over these pictures.
No, you're just getting bent out of shape with people who don't follow your line of thinking.
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Old October 28 2008, 08:46 PM   #92
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Well, these new pics don't really change anything in my bridge except that there's now a window (maybe) in the wall in front of the viewer.

It might not be a window, they could've included the saucer rim to help give the audience a clue as to where the bridge is on the ship. Also, to make the bridge less of a disconnected 'set'.

Where the heck is the window on the exterior? It doesn't look like it's on the trailer ENT.
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Old October 28 2008, 08:54 PM   #93
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Temper, temper, Number 6....
Nothing wrong with my temper. I'm not the one getting bent out of shape over these pictures.
No, you're just getting bent out of shape with people who don't follow your line of thinking.
Im not getting bent out of shape at all.
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Old October 28 2008, 08:56 PM   #94
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The only think I think is wrong with your idea is why is the viewer (Im guessing its the blue line in front of the helm/nav console) so far away from the front wall of the bridge?

To me from the photos the viewer looks like its part of the wall (unless Im just reading your diagram wrong, if so then sorry)
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Old October 28 2008, 09:42 PM   #95
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There was a window (or at least a large black rectangle) on the Enterprise studio model for "The Cage":

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...thecage011.jpg

Therefore, the window must be there, or certain posters will be unhappy
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Old October 28 2008, 09:44 PM   #96
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A large black rectangle I can buy. A window? That's crazy talk!
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Old October 28 2008, 10:36 PM   #97
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There was a window (or at least a large black rectangle) on the Enterprise studio model for "The Cage":

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...thecage011.jpg

Therefore, the window must be there, or certain posters will be unhappy
Some posters will have a problem no matter what... If that black rectangle is the viewscreen/window then it would be to helm/nav's right.. it is off-center.
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Old October 29 2008, 05:29 PM   #98
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There was a window (or at least a large black rectangle) on the Enterprise studio model for "The Cage":

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...thecage011.jpg

Therefore, the window must be there, or certain posters will be unhappy
What exactly are you driving at? The dome? Or that tiny little black rectangle that's almost on the top of the dome?

Anyway, any notion of a front window was quickly rejected when regular production began, plus the notion wasn't really supported at any point (just recheck that first scene on the bridge in "WNMHGB" when Kirk orders the "viewer" to be turned "on.")
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Old October 29 2008, 08:42 PM   #99
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There was a window (or at least a large black rectangle) on the Enterprise studio model for "The Cage":

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...thecage011.jpg

Therefore, the window must be there, or certain posters will be unhappy
Some posters will have a problem no matter what... If that black rectangle is the viewscreen/window then it would be to helm/nav's right.. it is off-center.
Exactly, since the bridge was rotated 36 degrees on the TOS ship.
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^
I never understood where that idea came from, nor the logic behind it.
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Old October 29 2008, 08:47 PM   #101
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Just that the ship was molded symmetrically to simplify it, and the set has the turbolift off to the side, so if that cylinder at the back of the dome is the turbolift, the bridge has to be rotated in order for the interior and exterior to match up.
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Old October 29 2008, 08:49 PM   #102
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Exactly, since the bridge was rotated 36 degrees on the TOS ship.
Sometimes, not all the time, as screencaps here have recently shown.
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Old October 29 2008, 08:52 PM   #103
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Exactly, since the bridge was rotated 36 degrees on the TOS ship.
Sometimes, not all the time, as screencaps here have recently shown.
No, we had extensive discussions about this in the Trek Art forum, involving all sorts of diagramming and modeling and what-not and the consensus was crystal clear: TOS may not have been consistent, but the physical designs leave no doubt that the single turbolift Jefferies designed into the bridge set and ship model was right on the ship's center-line. That was his intention, and so it was done.
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Old October 29 2008, 08:57 PM   #104
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Just that the ship was molded symmetrically to simplify it, and the set has the turbolift off to the side, so if that cylinder at the back of the dome is the turbolift, the bridge has to be rotated in order for the interior and exterior to match up.
So basically a mistake in the original production, I guess? The interior and exterior don't match up then. Duh! Now I get it.
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Exactly, since the bridge was rotated 36 degrees on the TOS ship.
Sometimes, not all the time, as screencaps here have recently shown.
It wouldn't be very logical to have the bridge offset that much. Hopefully they have corrected it with that viewscreen/window facing forward.
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Old October 29 2008, 09:01 PM   #105
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During WNMHGB, the turbolift was directly behind the captain's chair -- no offset:

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...eforehd052.jpg
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