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Old June 21 2011, 03:53 PM   #106
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Thing is though, the saucer undercut doesn't appear to translate onto the deck plans. Anyone else notice this or am I missing something?
In truth, I found that Saladin plans there pretty lacking. The details were off in many respects and there was a LOT changed just for the sake of changing it (NCC-700, for instance). It really need one more pass over from someone in order to be a truly excellent set... but didn't get it.
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Old June 21 2011, 05:01 PM   #107
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What would it take to get the Larson and Loknar out of you, anyway?
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Old June 21 2011, 05:08 PM   #108
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ooh ooh yeah a loknar sounds pretty good
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Old July 4 2011, 07:59 PM   #109
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Are we ever going to see official blueprints of the Nu Enterprise in a book or poster, or something? I know we have very well done fan made versions, but they are not official. We seem to have orthographic views of all Enterprise ships, except this one. Does the new Star Trek team simply not understand that some fans like to have starship schematics?

It's been two years, and I'm starting to feel we might never see accurate schematics of this vessel.

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Old July 4 2011, 08:21 PM   #110
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something about, "every time the team goes to the engine room for reference, they come out too inebriated to continue work."
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Old July 5 2011, 03:03 AM   #111
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It's been two years, and I'm starting to feel we might never see accurate schematics of this vessel.
That's because Abrams doesn't want them...
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Old July 5 2011, 05:26 AM   #112
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It's been two years, and I'm starting to feel we might never see accurate schematics of this vessel.
That's because Abrams doesn't want them...
Yeah, how dare we try to hold him to confirmed numbers.

No, he wants his Enterprise to be as dimensionally consistent as a TARDIS with a wonky chameleon circuit,
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Old July 5 2011, 10:52 PM   #113
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CRA - lemme throw this one on you...what if JJ comes out and admits that he made the E too big in the first film and decides to re-size it to something more scale accurate? Would you rank on him for having made the mistake in the first place or rank on him for admitting he was wrong and not sticking to his own continuity?

I mean, either way you're going to find fault with him, I'm just curious what direction you'd go in.
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Old July 6 2011, 04:28 AM   #114
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I think it all comes down to his being completely wrong to head up this project in the first place, due to his raging case of Star Wars envy.
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Old July 8 2011, 04:04 AM   #115
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What would it take to get the Larson and Loknar out of you, anyway?
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ooh ooh yeah a loknar sounds pretty good

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Old July 12 2011, 04:19 AM   #116
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Are we ever going to see official blueprints of the Nu Enterprise in a book or poster, or something? I know we have very well done fan made versions, but they are not official. We seem to have orthographic views of all Enterprise ships, except this one. Does the new Star Trek team simply not understand that some fans like to have starship schematics?
Over the years I've seen a lot of schematics come down the pipe and candidly while the "official" publications are usually glossily polished in the long run quite a bit of fan made work has been more dedicated and more accurate.

For example unless there are studio drawings that have never seen the light of day it took certain fans to get decent drawings of the TOS Enterprise out there. And ditto with a lot of other Trek designs. To my recollection the David Kimble TMP blueprints were the first truly accurate drawings of onscreen ships that were officially released to the buying public. The Franz Joseph publications prior to that may have had something of an official stamp to them, but they were actually not very accurate to what was seen onscreen. I believe Mike McMaster may have done more accurate work during the '70s (Klingon Battle Cruiser, Romulan Bird of Prey and the Enterprise Bridge), but my timing may be off.

With the resources available to talented and devoted fans today I suspect there's little official sources can do better than said fans.
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Old July 21 2011, 05:24 PM   #117
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CRA - lemme throw this one on you...what if JJ comes out and admits that he made the E too big in the first film and decides to re-size it to something more scale accurate? Would you rank on him for having made the mistake in the first place or rank on him for admitting he was wrong and not sticking to his own continuity?

I mean, either way you're going to find fault with him, I'm just curious what direction you'd go in.

I think the ship is awful...just awful no matter what size and frankly I don't care what direction Abrams goes wether he admits stupidity of Star Trek or resizes it. I think for the next movie they should have Kirk, or better yet Spock, wake up in in quarters and realize the 2009 Star Trek film was a bad dream. At least that way they can do away with that gigantic flying catastrophy, undo undoing all of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek history and have a second try. In my eyes USS Kelvin was a much cooler design than the reimagined USS Edselprise. They could have easily updated the look of TOS Enterprise without making it butt ugly, out of proportion and out of scale.

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Old July 21 2011, 05:32 PM   #118
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I think the ship is awful...
And this is on topic how?
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Old July 21 2011, 11:12 PM   #119
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Well, not exactly on topic, but it is on-tangent...
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Old July 24 2011, 05:58 PM   #120
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What would it take to get the Larson and Loknar out of you, anyway?
I did some preliminary drawings for those, but about four months ago I somehow just stopped working on two other schematics that were almost done, stopped my daily watching of Trek, and haven't felt like getting back into it. I don't know why. I haven't seen that movie and don't want to complain about it. It's none of my business.
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