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Old October 1 2008, 02:58 AM   #16
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Re: Apple Threatens To Shut Down iTunes Store?

Too bad. I just heard of an alternative method - if you have burning software, you can burn the audio CD as an image... then just mount it and rip it.
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Old October 1 2008, 03:08 AM   #17
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Re: Apple Threatens To Shut Down iTunes Store?

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even if Apple stopped selling things on the store there is no way they'd pull down the FairPlay authentication stuff.
How do you figure? Doesn't the existence of the DRM server depend on the store?
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Old October 1 2008, 03:14 AM   #18
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Re: Apple Threatens To Shut Down iTunes Store?

Well I can't speak for windows users, but any track you download from apple on a mac, can be burned to a cd (its not click and point, but can be done, and you can apparently do the same with the video (I never have, but I have managed to get a hold of a couple pirated videos from itunes).
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Old October 1 2008, 03:15 AM   #19
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Well I can't speak for windows users, but any track you download from apple on a mac, can be burned to a cd (its not click and point, but can be done, and you can apparently do the same with the video (I never have, but I have managed to get a hold of a couple pirated videos from itunes).
You can't burn iTunes-purchased videos to disc like you can with audio tracks.
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Old October 1 2008, 03:36 AM   #20
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even if Apple stopped selling things on the store there is no way they'd pull down the FairPlay authentication stuff.
How do you figure? Doesn't the existence of the DRM server depend on the store?
Why would it?
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Old October 1 2008, 04:09 AM   #21
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Re: Apple Threatens To Shut Down iTunes Store?

This is why I purchase my online tunes from Amazon.com's store. No DRM, and twice the bitrate of standard itunes.
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Old October 1 2008, 04:14 AM   #22
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Well I can't speak for windows users, but any track you download from apple on a mac, can be burned to a cd (its not click and point, but can be done, and you can apparently do the same with the video (I never have, but I have managed to get a hold of a couple pirated videos from itunes).
You can't burn iTunes-purchased videos to disc like you can with audio tracks.
Opps sorry, I should have typed better. I just downloaded a pirate video file from apple. It was a digital file not a hard copy. ANd I have no idea how the guy did it, the first few times it didn't work (as it did tyr and confirm withitunes, but it finally did work. Frankly it was more trouble then it was worth.

At least with the audio you can (again its not as easy as just dragging the files to the cd image and ripping your copy, but it isn't hard. But once you do it, DM free.
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Old October 1 2008, 04:15 AM   #23
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even if Apple stopped selling things on the store there is no way they'd pull down the FairPlay authentication stuff.
How do you figure? Doesn't the existence of the DRM server depend on the store?
Why would it?
I don't understand how they could keep just the DRM server running if the whole rest of the store shut down.
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Old October 1 2008, 04:19 AM   #24
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What if I back-up my library to DVDs? I have A LOT of iTunes tunes on my computer. Burning them to a CD will be extremely tedious.
Can you burn music as tracks to a DVD?

AFAIK, no, you can't.
Why can't you. Once you do the process to get rid of the DRM why wouldn't you beable to make a DVD after that?
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I don't understand how they could keep just the DRM server running if the whole rest of the store shut down.
Well, they could. It's two separate functions. Well, more than two. They could probably selectively turn on and off every function of the iTMS. Video, Music, HD, Podcast, and, yes, DRM verification.
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Old October 1 2008, 06:58 AM   #26
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Can you burn music as tracks to a DVD?

AFAIK, no, you can't.
Why can't you. Once you do the process to get rid of the DRM why wouldn't you beable to make a DVD after that?
What I was suggesting was not copying the .mp3s to a DVD, but actually writing audio tracks. Basically, making a normal audio CD but on a DVD instead. The obvious advantage would be that you could have a disc with hundreds of songs instead of just the 70 minute limit.
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Old October 1 2008, 07:48 AM   #27
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We're all getting ahead of ourselves here, Apple isn't going to shut down America's largest music store.
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Old October 1 2008, 10:52 AM   #28
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You can't burn iTunes-purchased videos to disc like you can with audio tracks.
You can using easily obtained software. It copies it from your ipod, strips the DRM and then supes it back as an MP4 file. I have it on my home Mac but never used it because I just buy DVD's then run tem through handbrake to get digital versions.


Regardless - I applaud Apple for being honest about making a profit. Just because something is successful is no reason to gut it tagalongs. I think folks in Norway ay find that out when Apple locks the out. The Norwegian government (along with other EU states) wants to force Apple to open iTunes to all MP3 players.

Excuse me but iTunes is Apple support software for an Apple made product - the iPod. Each part reinforces the other. Apple should not have to deal woth other products from companies that could have just as easily opened a music store. Consumers chose Apple knowing the limitation, that was their choice.
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Old October 1 2008, 12:17 PM   #29
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We're all getting ahead of ourselves here, Apple isn't going to shut down America's largest music store.
Indeed. This is a lot of hysteria over a simple negotiating tactic.
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Old October 1 2008, 01:14 PM   #30
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Excuse me but iTunes is Apple support software for an Apple made product - the iPod. Each part reinforces the other. Apple should not have to deal woth other products from companies that could have just as easily opened a music store. Consumers chose Apple knowing the limitation, that was their choice.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your statement reflects a general aversion to antitrust legislation rather than blind Apple fanboyism. Apple's integration of iTMS and the iPod comes straight out of Monopolistic Practices 101.
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