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Old October 4 2008, 11:33 PM   #91
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Re: USS Aventine

Streamlining is basically the artist's way of showing progress, since audiences have seen modern technology become sleeker and pointier, aircraft for example. In all honesty, the Enterprise-D didn't need to be a big piece of sculpture, but Starfleet did build it that way. The Constitution-refit didn't need to be the prettiest ship in Star Trek history, but Starfleet did build it that way. I don't know why they do these things, I think they just want to make their ships look pretty. Maybe the Constitution refit could be considered the "Buick Y-Job" of the future, the first ship meant to have a stylistic impact on someone.
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Old October 5 2008, 12:03 AM   #92
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Is there going to be a detailed description of the ship in the later Destiny books?
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Old October 5 2008, 12:10 AM   #93
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Is there going to be a detailed description of the ship in the later Destiny books?
Not really, no. I wanted to leave as much leeway as possible in case the editors wanted to hire an artist to dream up something cool later on.
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Old October 5 2008, 12:34 AM   #94
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As for starships that don't need to go skinny dipping through the atmosphere, it is aesthetically pleasing to have a "sleek" ship.
But aesthetics are shaped by experience. We ground-dwellers find sleek, aerodynamic, compact designs aesthetically appealing because they remind us of forms that are dynamic and graceful in the air or the water. A culture with centuries of experience in space may discover whole new aesthetic standards, perhaps based more on openness, lightness, structural minimalism, and the like. (For one thing, given the need for heat radiator fins on spacecraft, I suspect we might see a design aesthetic evoking the age of sail in some respects. The larger the ship, the bigger the radiator fins/sails would need to be.)

Would a ship designed more like the battlestars of BSG look better to you, Chris?
Definitely not. Aside from the militarism, that's a design very much rooted in Earthbound thinking, very flat and heavy and blocky like a structure designed to deal with gravity. The brilliance of Jefferies' and Guzman's Enterprise design is that it looks like it's meant to exist in weightlessness -- it's top-heavy, it's made up of rounded modules with slender connectors, it would fall over or collapse under its own weight if you laid it unsupported on a flat surface.


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Then I repeat my question...why have a seat for the XO, then? If they're so busy, they shouldn't have any time to sit down on the bridge.
An XO at least needs a console/workstation to give information about the status of the ship. And it might as well be a sit-down station next to the captain, so that the captain can confer with the XO without needing to look up.
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Old October 5 2008, 12:43 AM   #95
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^ As long as it isn't the board room like bridge from the concept drawings for early TNG
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Old October 5 2008, 12:52 AM   #96
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I liked the opposite captain and XO seats on the Voyager bridge. It seemed to slightly undermine the hierarchical nature of Starfleet in giving the captain and her first officer equal space.

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Old October 5 2008, 07:49 AM   #97
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I just noticed... how come that ship has a tailfin?

Because some things NEVER go out of style, like tailfins and bubble domes. And you can never find a horn when you need it. And I want it to play "la cooka racha"[/quote]

The Homer Class, the starship built by Homer for Homer.
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Old October 5 2008, 08:47 AM   #98
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I liked the opposite captain and XO seats on the Voyager bridge. It seemed to slightly undermine the hierarchical nature of Starfleet in giving the captain and her first officer equal space.
And that is my only problem with the Intrepid-class bridge. While I'm not in the "XO shouldn't have seat" camp, the captain and the first officer aren't equals. I like how the bridge of the Sovereign-class puts the captain on a raised dias at the center with the XO and counselor on either side. Although I could do without the counselor on the bridge, but that is for another thread.

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Old October 5 2008, 08:54 AM   #99
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Well that seat is supposedly for guests or advisors, Picard valued her input and let her sit there. In that one TNG ep with the alien dude disguised as the Executive Officer, you can see Riker sitting in zat chair IIRC.
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Old October 5 2008, 09:21 AM   #100
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Forgot about that. That makes me feel a little better.

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Old October 5 2008, 10:27 PM   #101
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That is not what I was expecting. David, but thanks.
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Old October 7 2008, 12:20 AM   #102
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I've been drawing some sketches of the good ship Aventine, but as I don't have a scanner, it will have to wait till I go to the library and scan it in!
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Old October 7 2008, 04:40 PM   #103
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I've been drawing some sketches of the good ship Aventine, but as I don't have a scanner, it will have to wait till I go to the library and scan it in!
Can't wait to see those sketches. Just curious to what everyone is thinking of how the Aventine looks.
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Old October 7 2008, 04:44 PM   #104
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I've been drawing some sketches of the good ship Aventine, but as I don't have a scanner, it will have to wait till I go to the library and scan it in!
Can't wait to see those sketches. Just curious to what everyone is thinking of how the Aventine looks.
It's a design I've had in my head for years now, if I was able to enter the Titan competition I would have used it and I tended to sketch it when I was in boring lectures at uni!
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Old October 7 2008, 09:31 PM   #105
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Has it been explained anywhere who or what the Aventine is named after?

Just curious.
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