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Old September 5 2008, 07:41 PM   #1
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X-files Homicide and Law and order are all set in same universe.

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“Unusual Suspects” The X-Files episode Episode no. Season 5
Episode 3 Written by Vince Gilligan Directed by Kim Manners Guest stars Richard Belzer as Detective John Munch, Signy Coleman as Susanne Modeski Production no. 5x01 Original airdate November 16, 1997 (Fox) Episode chronology ← Previous Next → "Redux II" "Detour" "Unusual Suspects" is the third episode of the fifth season of television series The X-Files. Set in 1989, it is revealed how the Lone Gunmen came together, and where they first met Mulder. It features a guest-starring role for Richard Belzer, who has a supporting role as Detective John Munch, his character from Homicide: Life on the Street and Law & Order: SVU.

[edit] Trivia

  • This is one of four episodes in The X-Files run not to feature Scully. The others being 3, Zero Sum and Travelers.
  • When they break in the warehouse and discover the gas (or supposed gas) is packaged in asthma inhalers, the packages just mention "asthma inhaler" but the items they take out have the precise look of those for a famous brand.
  • The matter with The Lone Gunmen and Susanne Modeski is concluded in the episode Three of a Kind.
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Old September 5 2008, 07:50 PM   #2
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Re: X-files Homicide and Law and order are all set in same universe.

It goes further than that...
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Old September 6 2008, 02:31 AM   #3
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Just because there's one crossover, it doesn't mean that two series exist in the same reality. After all, there was a Star Trek TNG/X-Men crossover novel. It could simply be that several universes have their own version of John Munch, similar to how Texas Ranger Earl McGraw appears in four of Quentin Tarantino's films.
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Old September 6 2008, 02:48 AM   #4
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Somehow I don't think the universes can handle multiple John Munchs.

And here's a site for nothing but crossovers.

http://www.poobala.com/crossoverlist.html
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Old September 6 2008, 03:23 AM   #5
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Now I have this image of Bobby and Alex tracking down the sewer monster.
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Old September 6 2008, 04:48 PM   #6
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I never saw that episode of X-Files. Why did it feature Munch? Was it set in Baltimore?

The Wire may also be set in the same universe: the last episode of the last season featured a cameo by Belzer, though it wasn't clear if he ws playing Munch or not.
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Old September 6 2008, 04:54 PM   #7
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I never saw that episode of X-Files. Why did it feature Munch? Was it set in Baltimore?
The episode is "Unusual Suspects". The episode is set in 1989, showing how the Lone Gunmen got together and how they met Mulder.

The Gunmen meet at an electronics convention in Baltimore and end up in trouble with the police, represented by Detective Munch. Byers describes to him what had happened in the episode up until that point, which might explain why Munch believed in conspiracies in Homicide.

The HBO series Oz might also be linked to St. Elsewhere (and thus Homicide and many other shows) since the contract to run the prison's hospital wing was won by a company called Wygert who also took over the hospital in St. Elsewhere. The fact that Tom Fontana worked on all three shows is no coincidence.
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Old September 6 2008, 05:04 PM   #8
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Yes. There was a rather lengthy list someone posted a few months ago that revealed everything from St. Elsewhere, Knight Rider, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Lost, and just about everything I have ever watched are connected by characters, implied relationships, fictional products, etc. I had no idea, say, Oceanic Airlines existed outside of Lost, but the name was used in at least three shows.
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Old September 6 2008, 05:06 PM   #9
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Then, of course, there is the Morley connection...
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Old September 7 2008, 10:42 AM   #10
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Yes. There was a rather lengthy list someone posted a few months ago that revealed everything from St. Elsewhere, Knight Rider, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Lost, and just about everything I have ever watched are connected by characters, implied relationships, fictional products, etc. I had no idea, say, Oceanic Airlines existed outside of Lost, but the name was used in at least three shows.
More than just three.

It's largely because of the use of stock footage from Executive Decision.

Alias and Lost, however, are linked not only through the use of Oceanic Airlines but because Charlie's band Driveshaft were played at a party held in an episode of Alias.
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Old September 7 2008, 01:06 PM   #11
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Re: X-files Homicide and Law and order are all set in same universe.

X-Files is fictional within the Law & Order/Homicide universe, even if Munch is in both.

This is because (in an early episode of Homicide) Munch says something about "On Friday nights, most people are home watching X-Files.
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X-Files is fictional within the Law & Order/Homicide universe, even if Munch is in both.

This is because (in an early episode of Homicide) Munch says something about "On Friday nights, most people are home watching X-Files.
Likewise, it has been established that 'The Simpsons' is a fictional show within 'Futurama,' while at the same time we have seen that 'Futurama' is a fictional show within 'The Simpsons!'

Sometimes this stuff doesn't have to make total sense.
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Somehow I don't think the universes can handle multiple John Munchs.

And here's a site for nothing but crossovers.

http://www.poobala.com/crossoverlist.html
that guy's wrong when he discusses nu-KR and TKR being linked, because they've explicitly said nu-KR only follows classic KR...
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Re: X-files Homicide and Law and order are all set in same universe.

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X-Files is fictional within the Law & Order/Homicide universe, even if Munch is in both.

This is because (in an early episode of Homicide) Munch says something about "On Friday nights, most people are home watching X-Files.
Likewise, it has been established that 'The Simpsons' is a fictional show within 'Futurama,' while at the same time we have seen that 'Futurama' is a fictional show within 'The Simpsons!'

Sometimes this stuff doesn't have to make total sense.
I've seen this discussion before. The best way to answer it: We've seen how much power CGB Spender has - in order to discredit Scully and Mulder, and to make their lives more difficult, he had the people at Fox create and run a show called The X Files (similar to the military using Wormhole Extreme! as a cover for the Stargate program).
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Re: X-files Homicide and Law and order are all set in same universe.

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Somehow I don't think the universes can handle multiple John Munchs.

And here's a site for nothing but crossovers.

http://www.poobala.com/crossoverlist.html
that guy's wrong when he discusses nu-KR and TKR being linked, because they've explicitly said nu-KR only follows classic KR...
Well, the theory of the website is that if A and B and connected and and B and C are connected, then A and C are connected (I'm now having flashes of proofs in high school geometry coming back).
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