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Old September 17 2008, 03:26 AM   #1
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Found this galaxy map detailing some locations and routes and stuff, don't know if there's more consistency in this one than in other maps.



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Old September 17 2008, 03:33 AM   #2
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That's from the book Star Trek Starcharts I do believe. They are probably the best maps of the star trek universe around even if there are a few errors in them.
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Old September 17 2008, 03:39 AM   #3
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Re: Galaxy Map

I concur.

No offense to the OP, but this isn't really new.
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Old September 17 2008, 08:17 AM   #4
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It might be noted that this map was essentially seen onscreen (although out of focus) on several late seventh-season VOY episodes.

That is, this specific graphic was not seen, but most of its Trek features, as well as the artistic layout of the galactic arms, were part of a VOY Astrometrics graphic that gave us a view from the direction of the Delta/Gamma border towards the galactic core and the Beta/Alpha border and depicted the route of the Voyager.

So in that respect, this map, with most of its features and faults (but not those "route of Enterprise" lines, as they weren't in the VOY map), can be considered either canon, or at least as canonical as it gets.

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Old September 17 2008, 08:36 AM   #5
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Thanks for that, it looks really good. Does it come any bigger? It's hard to make out some of the details.
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Old September 17 2008, 11:48 AM   #6
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^ buy the book!
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Old September 17 2008, 12:01 PM   #7
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Such a brilliant book. It's a shame non-fiction Trek books don't sell very well as I'd love to see an update of this with ENT Seasons 2-4 included.
ie showing where the Delphic Expanse is/was
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Old September 17 2008, 12:06 PM   #8
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Buying the book and getting the sales figures up would probably help in getting the much-needed update, yes.

I'd argue the Delphic Expanse would be essentially everywhere. It takes about 50 ly to get from Earth to the second Xindi homeworld, but the Expanse is supposed to be 2,000 ly wide, and that certainly won't fit in any of the "unused" nooks or crannies of the current map. Rather, I'd assume that the bulk of the expanse would lie above or below the map plane, but elements of it would protrude between the star systems shown on the map, and would perhaps be partially responsible for keeping many of the players apart from each other originally. I'd certainly insert a major protrusion between Earth and Ferenginar/Cardassia, for example...

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Old September 17 2008, 09:04 PM   #9
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i just want Berengaria moved from out on the rim near Ferengi space to nearer the core...
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Old September 18 2008, 12:06 AM   #10
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Wow I've never seen that. Its far superior to stuff we were seeing in the 90s. Ifor one love non-fiction books and they DID sell well at one time. I hope that updates to the chronology and more will eventually be re-published.

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Old September 18 2008, 01:00 AM   #11
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Agreed with RAMA. It may not be new but I'd never seen that particular map before.
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Old September 18 2008, 02:24 AM   #12
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I thought even in the Trekverse Sol was situated towards the outer arm of the galaxy
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Old September 18 2008, 07:46 AM   #13
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Yup. But "outer" has traditionally referred to the guesstimate of "25,000-28,000 ly out of 50,000-60,000 outward", and this map complies with the halfway guesstimate. The most modern estimates favor a distance of 26,000 ly and a radius of 50,000.

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Old September 18 2008, 07:47 AM   #14
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Wow I've never seen that. Its far superior to stuff we were seeing in the 90s. Ifor one love non-fiction books and they DID sell well at one time. I hope that updates to the chronology and more will eventually be re-published.

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fat chance. the response from the editors is always "it's online for free, people won't buy the chronology or the encyclopaedia"
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Old September 18 2008, 06:26 PM   #15
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The one thing I was upset about the book was they did not show the path V-ger took or where the Mutara sector/Mutara nebula is/was. I don't remember if the Doomsday Machine path was shown.
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