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"Planet of the Titans" Revisited
The best thing is seeing large reproductions of several of McQuarrie's concept paintings that most of us have seen before, and conceptual sketches, most of which I'd seen elsewhere. But what made this extra interesting was Ralph's notes on the images. Since much of what's known about this project is rumor and assumption, I thought I'd dig up some of the images in the book and note what McQuarrie says about them, and what hints that provides about what was and wasn't planned for the film. NOTE that the images here are ones I've seen all over the net and had on my hard drive. I didn't dare try to put this big ol book into a scanner!
As to the Enterprise, some of the sketches in the book show close-ups of the nacelle fronts, which are shown to have domed ends, but these are recessed into the front of the nacelle cylinders: a detail not apparent on the photos I've seen of the study models.
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"Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." Last edited by Maurice Navidad; September 20 2008 at 08:48 AM. |
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Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited
I definitely see the MILLENNIUM FALCON in Ralph's saucer, and his enterprise is definitely filtered through his own sensibilities, since Adam's sketches look more ... well, Adam-like than this (I am a huge admirer of Adam.) Downside is that you'd've had the GALACTICA effect, with TREK looking like SW right off the bat, instead of waiting till ST 3 to take on that inappropriate look. I just saw Toshiro Mifune in something the other night, and immediately flashed on the stuff about Mifune being the Klingon Captain opposing Spock, according to Kaufmann in a little book, I think it is called best sf films never made. I've never felt good about the idea of doing 3/4 of a trek movie w/o Kirk (witness GENERATIOINS), but I gotta say, I'd've been first in line for this one. The black hole shroud thing I don't get at all, it sounds like it is pinched from John Black's rejected trek pitch about the black hole that blows up, rather than the hole that send the E crew back (or forward) in time at the end. |
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Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited
Funny you should mention Mifune, because if memory serves, he was also the choice to play Admiral Nogura for TMP, once it was bumped up to feature status. James Shigeta was going to play Nogura if the Phase II series had progressed.
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Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited
I agree that I like Adam's renderings of his designs better. They feel sleeker than McQuarrie's take. I would've loved to get my hands on the study models...where they sold at the auctions? I edited the Planet of Titans entry on Memory Alpha to make it more accurate, and also corrected some of the captions which attributes the Titans designs to Phase II (and added an entry for Study Models, since they erroneously referred to the study models as Studio Models), and I revised their entry on McQuarrie to correct Titans errors there, and to add mention of his work on Star Trek VI. Whew! There's an entry on the project in "The Greatest Sci-Fi Movies Never Made". As to Mifune...I love the man. I love him in High and Low in particular, amongst many great performances. I was thrilled when I picked up a capsule toy in Japan and opened it to find it was Mifune as his nameless Samurai from Yojimbo...in black and white! Yay!
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"Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." Last edited by Maurice Navidad; September 20 2008 at 08:56 PM. |
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Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited
I still do.
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Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited
It is pretty cool looking. I'd love to see them use that in the new movie, but I don't think that's likely. It would be great though, wouldn't it?
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I have to agree with you on a movie featuring Spock heavily and Kirk less. As Nimoy has pointed out in several interviews, the character of Spock works best when he has the character of Kirk and Shatner's energitic performance to work against. In Mark A. Altman's book Captain's Log, he quotes Nimoy from another source as saying that Spock isn't sucessful when he is left in command by himself like in "The Gaileo Seven." |
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Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited
McQuarrie labels the corridor as Vulcan, but the curve makes me think Enterprise interior.
The final image, with the hologram, looks like a Vulcan who's being restrained...but who can be sure? In fact, the burned out nature of the planet in the sketches above makes me wonder if it's not Vulcan at all, but the titular Planet of the Titans. Curiouser, and curiouser...
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Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited
Christopher; For the life of me, I can't recall where I read this, but I'm certain I did. I want to say that most likely it was in the Reeves-Stevens' book on Phase II, but I'd have to flip through my copy to see if I can confirm that. What's really a shame is that Mifune wasn't able to play him in TMP.
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Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited
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"Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." Last edited by Maurice Navidad; September 22 2008 at 01:30 AM. |
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