Abode of Life - Page 2

Christopher · September 15 2008, 08:34 PM

ClayinCA wrote:

Is Masks the one that contains a reference to "J.G. Worf," as though the author thought those were Worf's initials and not part of his rank? That cracked me up....

Some people made the same mistake with Geordi when TNG was new. Thought his name was J. G. Geordi La Forge.

AstroMike · September 16 2008, 05:22 AM

I remember reading this book when it first came out, so I guess it was 26 years ago, and enjoying it. The crazy thing I remember about this book was that I was reading it while in junior high school and I lost it. Several months later I found it laying it the hallway. I still have it to this day in a box somewhere. I also always liked the cover of this one and remember the Timescape logo at the top.

ClayinCA · September 16 2008, 09:13 PM

Christopher wrote:

ClayinCA wrote:

Is Masks the one that contains a reference to "J.G. Worf," as though the author thought those were Worf's initials and not part of his rank? That cracked me up....

Some people made the same mistake with Geordi when TNG was new. Thought his name was J. G. Geordi La Forge.

Cripes, I didn't know that. That's hysterical!

J. Allen · September 17 2008, 08:37 AM

DGCatAniSiri wrote:

J. Allen wrote:

This evening I started reading a TNG novel "Masks" by John Vornholt. It should be interesting.

Masks has always been one of my favorites. I particularly find the culture of the Lorcans interesting.

I just finished reading "Masks" this morning. Absolutely terrific. I became entranced by the Lorcan culture, and even found myself getting angry at Lewis for what he was trying to do.

I have just chosen my next book, which is "First Frontier" by Diane Carey.

J.

ClayinCA · September 17 2008, 03:50 PM

J. Allen wrote:

I have just chosen my next book, which is "First Frontier" by Diane Carey.

One of my all-time favourite Star Trek books! I hope you enjoy it, and I really hope that you post your thoughts on the book once you've finished it.

Scout101 · September 17 2008, 04:59 PM

Not a bad one, although as it was early for Trek books, it took a few liberties here and there. "First Frontier" is definitely a fun one, I enjoyed that.

Don't listen to your 'unnamed sources', there is a LOT of fun to be had in the numbered books. Not as tight, continuity-wise, as the new books (in fact, they often contradict, unless the 5YM was about 40 years, and Kirk was a bigger menace to the timeline than even hinted at in DS9), but each story by itself works well. Some stinkers as well, but plenty of good stuff there.

Trent Roman · September 17 2008, 05:36 PM

J. Allen wrote:

I just finished reading "Masks" this morning. Absolutely terrific. I became entranced by the Lorcan culture, and even found myself getting angry at Lewis for what he was trying to do.

I love Masks. It's a simple conceit, and the backstory makes no sense, but Vornholt just brings alive this vibrant, creative society.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

Rush Limborg · September 19 2008, 12:05 AM

The Abode of Life had some interesting ideas, but it could've stood tighter editing. I remember there being an interminable, rambling Captain's Log entry at the start of practically every chapter. And "Lee Correy" (a pseudonym for the late science writer G. Harry Stine) didn't exactly have a fluid writing style or a naturalistic approach to dialogue.

You said it, Chris. One of the things I remember the most about it was the rediculous amount of times I read the wordy and completely meaningless dialogue-tag "Kirk wanted to know". Sheesh, why coudn't the author just write "Kirk asked" or even "Kirk wonderd"?

The only other times I ever recall seeing that kind of tag were in kid's books --and even as a kid, I found it awkward-sounding....

Good book. It shows Kirk in his best role ever of negotiator and mediator when he basically helps the three sides on the planet hammer out a constitution.

I'll give you that. It was a pretty good story. Nice ideas, I think.

Also, features Janice Rand in perhaps her largest book role ever.

Oh, yeah! She was actually the reason I borrowed the book. The author handled her well --as far as the writing went, anyway. As far as the older books are concerned, the only one that I recall actually dealing with her as a character is the pretty-underrated Enterprise: The First Adventure.

That being said, she was well used here. I liked how Kirk notes her combat experience. She's still a lady, but she's capable, and tough when she has to be. Kinda hints at what the character could've been, had Grace not been booted of the set.... *sigh*

Therin of Andor · September 19 2008, 10:59 PM

Dayton3 wrote:

The two books addressing the anomaly "Chain of Attack" and "The Final Nexus" were poor at best.

I would have thought "Chain of Attack" would have been techie enough for you.

I didn't care for it much, but was pleasantly surprised that it referenced "The Abode of Life" and a lot of fans remember CoA as one of their first faves, simply because it was the first regular novel after the massive hit that was ST IV, and so was the first ST book a lot of new fans bought. In the UK, it even kicked off the numbered local Titan novels at #1.

"The Final Nexus" was a chore to read, although I did like the female guest star. But it wasn't nearly as bad as "TNG: Into the Nebula". "TNG: The Peacekeepers" and the long-delayed "Engines of Destiny" were more enjoyable Gene DeWeese ST novels.

Christopher · September 20 2008, 12:12 AM

Chain of Attack was also the first ST novel to display the original ST logo above the title, rather than just saying "The new STAR TREK novel" in more ordinary print somewhere on the cover. However, I believe rereleases of earlier books often added the logo, obscuring that fact.

TheAlmanac · September 20 2008, 12:44 AM

Trent Roman wrote:

J. Allen wrote:

I just finished reading "Masks" this morning. Absolutely terrific. I became entranced by the Lorcan culture, and even found myself getting angry at Lewis for what he was trying to do.

I love Masks. It's a simple conceit, and the backstory makes no sense, but Vornholt just brings alive this vibrant, creative society.

How does the backstory not make sense...?

Christopher · September 20 2008, 01:04 AM

The only real problem I have with Masks is a minor conceptual point: how come the Enterprise computers had such a tiny selection of masks in their replicator database? But that was a necessary plot conceit.

J. Allen · September 20 2008, 01:51 AM

^ I agree. To me, it culminates with them earning their new masks, and shows that there is more to the masks than status. I enjoyed this novel. As it stands, I just finished "First Frontier" and "Captain's Daughter". I loved both of them. Well, okay, "First Frontier" started off a little slow for me, but after about 75 pages it started to swing into it. "Captain's Daughter" was thoroughly enjoyable from start to finish.

I'm now starting on "Web of the Romulans" by M.S. Murdock. Looks interesting.

J.

September 16 2008, 05:22 AM	#17
AstroMike Captain	Re: Abode of Life I remember reading this book when it first came out, so I guess it was 26 years ago, and enjoying it. The crazy thing I remember about this book was that I was reading it while in junior high school and I lost it. Several months later I found it laying it the hallway. I still have it to this day in a box somewhere. I also always liked the cover of this one and remember the Timescape logo at the top.

September 17 2008, 04:59 PM	#21
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Abode of Life Not a bad one, although as it was early for Trek books, it took a few liberties here and there. "First Frontier" is definitely a fun one, I enjoyed that. Don't listen to your 'unnamed sources', there is a LOT of fun to be had in the numbered books. Not as tight, continuity-wise, as the new books (in fact, they often contradict, unless the 5YM was about 40 years, and Kirk was a bigger menace to the timeline than even hinted at in DS9), but each story by itself works well. Some stinkers as well, but plenty of good stuff there. __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

September 20 2008, 12:12 AM	#25
Christopher Writer	Re: Abode of Life Chain of Attack was also the first ST novel to display the original ST logo above the title, rather than just saying "The new STAR TREK novel" in more ordinary print somewhere on the cover. However, I believe rereleases of earlier books often added the logo, obscuring that fact. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

September 20 2008, 01:04 AM	#27
Christopher Writer	Re: Abode of Life The only real problem I have with Masks is a minor conceptual point: how come the Enterprise computers had such a tiny selection of masks in their replicator database? But that was a necessary plot conceit. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

September 20 2008, 01:51 AM	#28
J. Allen Probably Satan™ Location: A Quantum State	Re: Abode of Life ^ I agree. To me, it culminates with them earning their new masks, and shows that there is more to the masks than status. I enjoyed this novel. As it stands, I just finished "First Frontier" and "Captain's Daughter". I loved both of them. Well, okay, "First Frontier" started off a little slow for me, but after about 75 pages it started to swing into it. "Captain's Daughter" was thoroughly enjoyable from start to finish. I'm now starting on "Web of the Romulans" by M.S. Murdock. Looks interesting. J. __________________ “In all of the time forward, and backward, throughout the universe, we have all been alive and dead, and all at the same time.”

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