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Old September 9 2008, 02:43 AM   #1
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What are Captain America's politics?

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Old September 9 2008, 02:59 AM   #2
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Re: What are Captain America's politics?

Since most comic book writers are liberal, he tends to lean liberal.
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Old September 9 2008, 03:10 AM   #3
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Re: What are Captain America's politics?

I don't think someone that thought as Captain America would actually call himself Captain America. He basically is just like Superman except he will kill if he has no choice.
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Old September 9 2008, 03:22 AM   #4
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Re: What are Captain America's politics?

Hmmm, drapes himself in the flag and calls himself Captain America...
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Old September 9 2008, 03:28 AM   #5
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Hmmm, drapes himself in the flag and calls himself Captain America...
And yet he's not the gung-ho "everyone who doesn't fall in line is a communist/terrorist!" type. He opposed the Superhuman Registration Act in Civil War, remember.
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Old September 9 2008, 03:49 AM   #6
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Re: What are Captain America's politics?

Grew up on the streets of New York in the Dirty 30s; he reveres FDR and the New Deal, favours a very muscular foreign policy, uncompromising on issues of morality (he once said he couldn't be president because that job requires the ability to compromise on ideals to do it properly, something he's dedicated himself to not doing).
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Old September 9 2008, 04:19 AM   #7
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Re: What are Captain America's politics?

Norrin Radd wrote: View Post
Since most comic book writers are liberal, he tends to lean liberal.


I'm no expert on the comic book medium, but, in a word, no. You're going to have to offer up a LOT of support for this argument.
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Old September 9 2008, 04:44 AM   #8
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He opposed the Superhuman Registration Act in Civil War, remember.
Yeah but he thought that privacy for superheroes was more important than protecting all 50 states AND the planet by having a more unified, trained superhero force. As one of the senators told Tony: cops and feds put their asses on the line (and their families') every day without masks. I admired his dedication but couldn't fully agree with him on that one.

if the OP is asking about party affiliation, I have no clue... he doesn't seem to fit into either of the two current major parties
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Old September 9 2008, 04:45 AM   #9
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Re: What are Captain America's politics?

It is pretty accurate; comics tend to have a liberal skew, socially anyway; there are a few notable conservatives (Bill Willingham, Chuck Dixon).

Now, what liberal means changes over time; 60s Marvel has a very Kennedyesque muscular liberalism that's all about taking on the Commies, for example.

Returning to the original topic, according to Dave Campbell::
CAPTAIN AMERICA - TRUMAN DEMOCRAT

Cap is a man out of time. Thawed after 50-odd years of suspended animation, this living legend from World War II is guided by old-fashioned American values and unshakeable principles. In other words, he’s got a bit of a stick up his ass. Captain America can’t even recognize today’s political parties, which have mutated in the decades he’s been on ice into bloated, hypocritical ideological monstrosities whose divisive policies makes him sad. Makes him cry, even. Cap believes in small government that stays out of private lives, a strong national defense, and pulling oneself up by one’s boot straps or shoelaces or whatever is handy. However, Cap is opposed to legislating morality and believes that government has a responsibility to help out the less fortunate and defenseless, like kids and puppies. Cap is a walking Frank Capra movie with a mean right hook. He votes his conscience, not along party lines.
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Old September 9 2008, 04:50 AM   #10
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He opposed the Superhuman Registration Act in Civil War, remember.
Yeah but he thought that privacy for superheroes was more important than protecting all 50 states AND the planet by having a more unified, trained superhero force. As one of the senators told Tony: cops and feds put their asses on the line (and their families') every day without masks. I admired his dedication but couldn't fully agree with him on that one.

if the OP is asking about party affiliation, I have no clue... he doesn't seem to fit into either of the two current major parties
I didn't read any of it, but from what I gathered it wasn't the idea of having a trained superhero force, it was the idea of forcing super humans to fight for the government whether they intended to fight crime or not, because of their abilities. No different than the MRA. At least that is what I gathered.

Is that something you would support?
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Old September 9 2008, 05:06 AM   #11
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^ Yep. The real problem with the SHRA was conscription, and I'm solidly with Captain America and all the other heroes who said 'Hell no, we won't go.' If it had only been registration, I would have agreed with Iron Man's side--government has a legitimate interest in knowing what, in its territory, can cause damage on the scale of superhumans--but the minute they started turning registration into the fascist glee club that is the Fifty State Initiative and detaining people over what are basically ideological differences, creating a system of indefinite incarceration for political prisoners, they lost the moral high ground--precipitously.

As for Cap's politics, I also don't see a modern equivalent. I imagine that Cap goes to the polls to vote, since he sees it as his civic duty, but probably spoils the ballot in protest.

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Old September 9 2008, 05:22 AM   #12
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Re: What are Captain America's politics?

The SHRA is essentially the legalization of slavery of super-humans. The SHRA basically says you either work for the government, or the government will either imprison you or maim you. No middle ground. I agree with Trent that if it were merely registration, that would not have been as big of an issue.

AFAIC, Tony Stark became the vindication of all of Magneto's fears about humans enslaving mutants (and by extension in this case, all super-humans). You might not agree with Magneto's methods (I don't), and you might even oppose him when he strikes (I would), but you can never say that he doesn't have a legitimate reason for his fears for the future. Not anymore. Tony Stark has proved him right.
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Old September 9 2008, 07:27 AM   #13
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Ultimate Cap's really right-wing. more than the 616 Cap...

yet, he's written by a Scottish Socialist most of the time...
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Old September 9 2008, 01:49 PM   #14
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Ed Brubaker said that Democrats want him to be on their side and Republicans want him on their side. I think he's on America's side. I bet most of the petty issues don't matter to the man. He's going to do whatever's correct if it's a Republican position or a Democrat position.
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Old September 9 2008, 01:49 PM   #15
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Ultimate Cap's really right-wing. more than the 616 Cap...

yet, he's written by a Scottish Socialist most of the time...
Which was kind of the point; Millar's Cap was a parody of the Bush Administration.
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