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Old September 10 2008, 05:00 PM   #136
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God yes. Among it's many sins, Wonder Woman ain't a blond.

And gotta disagree. Kara IS Starbuck. But so is Starbuck.

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Old September 10 2008, 06:33 PM   #137
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^I was referring to the idea of a Muslim Superman.
Afraid the logic still escapes me. And as someone else said, Muslim is a religion, not a race and religions have nothing to do with physical appearance. There are Arabic and black Christians and there are white Muslims.

But for what it's worth, I do tend to think that actors in comic adaptations should physically resemble the depictions on page, as far as possible, given that it's such a visual medium. Superman should be played by someone in the mould of Chris Reeve or Brandon Routh, not someone who looks like Woody Allen. Captain America ought to look like BRad Pitt or Matthew McConaughey, not Cillian Murphy. So I'm not a massive fan of having a character played by someone of a different race, unless they're clearly the best person for the role - such as Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin. And I think having Nick Fury played by Sam Jackson is brilliant, given that the character has been rebooted to resemble him in the comics anyway.

This whole thread is somewhat academic, given that the original story has now been debunked. But my tuppence is that while Smith is a decent and likeable actor, making Cap America a black man creates an entirely different set of dynamics, introducing issues of racism, both from the Nazis and from America (segregation in the army etc), which aren't part of the original story. These could undoubtedly make for an interesting movie - but they wouldn't be a faithful rendition of the Captain America story, they'd be some sort of alternate universe telling. And I don't see the need to do that, given that the original version is interesting enough in its own right
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Old September 10 2008, 09:10 PM   #138
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... they'd be some sort of alternate universe telling. And I don't see the need to do that, given that the original version is interesting enough in its own right
Not that I'm arguing with you, but I find every film adaptation to be an alternate universe retelling of sorts.

An opinion on the Smith as Cap matter offered by a writer at Newsarama.
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Old September 10 2008, 09:18 PM   #139
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An opinion on the Smith as Cap matter offered by a writer at Newsarama.
Interesting, but I must respectfully disagree with just about all of that.
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Old September 11 2008, 08:23 AM   #140
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I was digging through some alternative comics of Captain America and here is an interesting one that Newsarama even posted: Truth: Red, White and Blue, about a black Captain America out of Tuskegee while there was a real Captain America running around as well. I need to find this.
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^See here. His grandson is now one of the Young Avengers, Patriot, too.
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