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Old September 7 2008, 02:19 AM   #16
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Re: oh dawd, please! Raimi and that stupid turd Tobey making Spidey 4

Interesting bit also from DHD:

And Sony has hired a pair of screenwriters to get going on the Spider-Man 3 spinoff movie Venom. Given that comic book artist/writer and action figure maker, Todd McFarlane, who is one of the creators of the Marvel villain, doesn't think a Venom movie could do well with a villain as the central character, my sources think Sony should let Topher Grace, even though he was blown up at the end of Spider-Man 3 (yet a portion of the Venom costume survived), stay in the role because the likeable actor could be a a sympathetic evildoer.
My bet is that we're getting Poor Misunderstood Venom, The Franchise. Or at least an attempt.
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Old September 7 2008, 03:13 AM   #17
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Re: oh dawd, please! Raimi and that stupid turd Tobey making Spidey 4

I think the series needs a change of locale... how many times can we see Spidey swooping around buildings and firing webs? I'd like to see some freak experiment turn NYC into a huge jungle, with trees as big as skyscrapers, vines as big as buses, and thirty-foot insects for Spidey to fight. Or something...
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Old September 7 2008, 03:22 AM   #18
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Wait a minute...

That was Leonard DiCaprio playing Doctor Conners?

Wao (think wow). I never recognised him and I remember him from Growing Pains.

Interestink.

Anyhoo, I personally really enjoyed the movies, even though I personally consider them "What Ifs" because of how much he was rewritten.

I really wanted to see the black and white suit, not the all black version.
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Old September 7 2008, 04:31 AM   #19
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Re: oh dawd, please! Raimi and that stupid turd Tobey making Spidey 4

Dylan Baker played Connors. I liked the second movie but the first was too simple and episodic and the third suffered for the lackluster Sandman and Venom. It'd be hard to make another one given how much Parker is fixated on MJ in this series; it'd have to have a very different story, challenges, style. I'd advise against the Lizard because we've already seen too many experiments-gone-wrong and sympathetic villains (heck, Ock basically took some of Connors' appeal and then they used it again for Sandman). My favorite villains are Mysterio, Jackal (beyond unlikely) and Black Cat (unlikely), Vulture, Electro or Kraven could be OK.
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Old September 7 2008, 04:52 AM   #20
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He's the same hard-luck schmuck in and out of costume. That's core to Spidey's character.
Yeah, he's a hard-luck shmuck with a supermodel girlfriend.

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Old September 7 2008, 05:36 AM   #21
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Time for my Helen Mirren as Madame Web pitch again.

Or Silver Sable....a really Silver Sable.

Villains will be Matt Dillon as Hydro Man, Amanda Peet as that female doctor octopus no one remembers, Ryan Phillipe as Hobgoblin and Peter Sarsgaard as Carnage.

Or hopefully...not.
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Old September 7 2008, 06:24 AM   #22
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i think the most obvious question is, how will Nick Fury and easter eggs for the Avengers Initiative factor into this movie and how is Peter going to handle Tony Stark shacking up with both Mary-Jane and Gwen.

You can't have Hydroman without Sandman returning. It's awesome when they blend into one another because it's really a lot like sex if you want to make them squirm after the fact.

Of course it's about time Osborn came back from the dead for a dead for a Goblin war with his kid.
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Old September 7 2008, 06:53 AM   #23
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i think the most obvious question is, how will Nick Fury and easter eggs for the Avengers Initiative factor into this movie ...
They won't as the Spidey films are made by a different studio.
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Old September 7 2008, 09:27 AM   #24
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I just hope the script doesn't suck this time around.
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Old September 7 2008, 12:50 PM   #25
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I love all the Spidey films (although admit that 3 does have its flaws). I'm glad Raimi and Maguire are staying. I'm hoping for a Lizard/Kraven the Hunter combination
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Old September 7 2008, 01:50 PM   #26
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Yeah, he's a hard-luck shmuck with a supermodel girlfriend.
In the comics, she didn't become a supermodel until a couple of decades and many creative teams after Stan Lee's time. Raimi is primarily referencing the core Stan Lee material, as he should.
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Old September 7 2008, 02:18 PM   #27
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Nikki Finke's bit from DHD says this:
..."Sam Raimi made the first serious superhero movie, and others followed...
Yeah just forget about 2000's X-Men then?
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Old September 7 2008, 02:59 PM   #28
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I am sure it will be better than Superman Returns. See now this is the movie that Venom is suppose to be in, not the 3rd. I guess the Lizard is ok, but I would rather Spidey take on an evil villian, not another poor soul. I want him to take on someone that is really bad to the core, to make him the great hero he is.
Agreed. Enough with the misunderstood villains. Or the boring ones like Sandman.

What I meant by more focus on Spider-Man, I'd rather see more of Peter as Spider-Man than more of Peter's day-to-day life.
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Old September 7 2008, 03:24 PM   #29
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there's one thing I have wanted more of in these movies since i got a swell little chubby in the first movie and that is Elizabeth Banks who's star is rising by the way between her position on Scrubs and getting the "female" lead in Meet Dave among other projects because she's gorgeous and that Betty Bryant has always been one of my favourites and i just loved the schism back in the sixties with how Liz got insanely Jealous about Pete's older more experienced girlfriend and their relationship broke up over Peter being an idiot...
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Old September 7 2008, 03:35 PM   #30
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I love all the Spidey films (although admit that 3 does have its flaws). I'm glad Raimi and Maguire are staying. I'm hoping for a Lizard/Kraven the Hunter combination
Sums it up for me, if done right.
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