'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech

Cmndr J Crichton · September 6 2008, 08:01 AM

For those who watched the final curtain of The Experience online http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZISn3...eature=related The speeker says a line that Spock and Kirk used as a metaphor for 'rebirth' in The Wrath of Kahn and Search for Spock.

I know I'm just being wishful, or even hopeful, but a new major movie is on the horizon. What if this isn't a closure of Star Trek The Experience, but a refit to tie into the new movie. and new re-vitalization of the Trek universe?

Now it could be in a new venue, but the speech did lead to some very interesting speculating. I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if in wihin 9 or 10 months we hear an announcement of The Return of Star Trek the Experience. This time, it has it's own hotel, Paramount/CBS owned, and a permanant residance on The Vegas Strip.

The closing ceremony was nothing short of spectacular. As always, The Experience lives up to their reputaion. When the DS9 music crescendos as the curtain falls, it's very moving. Sort of saying goodbye to the old way of how we think of Trek, and looking foward to the new vision.

Still, I have a feeling there was something more in that speech than simply quoting a line from a movie. A line that just happens to take the place of rebirth.

number6 · September 6 2008, 08:06 AM

If by "Rebirth" you mean "New Michael Jackson Themed Theatre" then you're right and they're getting right on it.

Cmndr J Crichton · September 6 2008, 08:08 AM

That's never been officially annaounced has it? Would people actually go to that thing?

number6 · September 6 2008, 08:28 AM

Cmndr J Crichton wrote:

That's never been officially annaounced has it? Would people actually go to that thing?

That's the word around the Hilton. It's be a great place to bring the kids!

Tulin · September 6 2008, 08:31 AM

I am sure they'd give great rates to Catholic priests!

number6 · September 6 2008, 08:33 AM

Tulin wrote:

I am sure they'd give great rates to Catholic priests!

They get in free. They always lose their shirts "gambling."

Biggshow · September 6 2008, 08:35 AM

"THe Michael Jackson Experience" is just an unlikely rumor at this point. The Hilton hasn't outright denied it but it also says that it is unlikely. In actual fact, there is nothing in the works to immediately replace STTE. For at least a year there will simply be a big hole (or perhaps some beginning construction on whatever will take its place) where STTE used to be. I'm also speaking metaphorically.

What I do know is that for the week leading up to the closing, the current GM of The Fremont Street Experience (and former GM of STTE) and several former STTE engineering personel were onhand to look into the possibility of relocating at least part of The Experience to the troubled downtown Neonopolis property. Nothing has been decided and as far as I know there have been no formal negotiations started.

This may have been what Mr. Boutte was alluding to.

Sagart · September 6 2008, 11:14 AM

Tulin wrote:

I am sure they'd give great rates to Catholic priests!

Well, as a Catholic priest who has been to the Experience many times, I mourn its loss but regret that I can't even come here without being insulted.
As one who has worked hard these past few years to try and rebuild the shattered trust of those who expect their priests to be good men, I find the sick, perverted actions of a relativley small number of men to be anything but funny and the inference that we are all the same as them to be frankly disgusting.

Dale · September 6 2008, 12:30 PM

Whether there is ever another Star Trek-themed attraction of that scope and scale or not, it will never be Star Trek: The Experience. That wasn't about rides or architecture or even that amazing bar... it was the people who made that place special. Nothing that replaces it could ever be quite the same.

It may rise again with another name and a modernized, JJ Abrams-inspired theme. It may have kick-ass rides featuring the very latest technologies, it may have a themed bar and restaurant, and it may have an amazing troupe of performers... but that group of people in that particular environment was something special,and I am unsure whether their particular brand of magic could ever be captured again.

That said... if the folks down on Fremont Street want to relocate and reopen Quark's, I'll sure as hell show up!

USS Intrepid · September 6 2008, 01:34 PM

Dale wrote:

Whether there is ever another Star Trek-themed attraction of that scope and scale or not, it will never be Star Trek: The Experience. That wasn't about rides or architecture or even that amazing bar... it was the people who made that place special. Nothing that replaces it could ever be quite the same.

It may rise again with another name and a modernized, JJ Abrams-inspired theme. It may have kick-ass rides featuring the very latest technologies, it may have a themed bar and restaurant, and it may have an amazing troupe of performers... but that group of people in that particular environment was something special,and I am unsure whether their particular brand of magic could ever be captured again.

Well said. You never know though, sometimes you can catch lightning in a bottle twice.

Dale wrote:

That said... if the folks down on Fremont Street want to relocate and reopen Quark's, I'll sure as hell show up!

Save me a seat.

kevjulian · September 6 2008, 02:49 PM

Dale may be right but if there is ever another Quarks, I will be there. I will give what ever Star Trek Theme attraction they come up with a chance to live up to the Experience or make its own place in the Star Trek universe. I wait in anticipation of a Warp Core Breach.

Kev

chardman · September 6 2008, 02:51 PM

I've no doubt that "The Experience" will be back, but I doubt that it'll be in Vegas. I'm betting on King's Island, or one of Paramount's other themepark locations.

Nerys Ghemor · September 7 2008, 01:33 AM

Sagart wrote:

Tulin wrote:

I am sure they'd give great rates to Catholic priests!

Well, as a Catholic priest who has been to the Experience many times, I mourn its loss but regret that I can't even come here without being insulted.
As one who has worked hard these past few years to try and rebuild the shattered trust of those who expect their priests to be good men, I find the sick, perverted actions of a relativley small number of men to be anything but funny and the inference that we are all the same as them to be frankly disgusting.

I, for one, am glad you had the courage to stand up for yourself. I'm sorry I didn't have the time to answer this post sooner, but I've got your back.

Biggshow · September 7 2008, 09:08 AM

chardman wrote:

I've no doubt that "The Experience" will be back, but I doubt that it'll be in Vegas. I'm betting on King's Island, or one of Paramount's other themepark locations.

I'll take that bet. Paramount Parks is no longer owned by Viacom. They sold the parks to Cedar Fair about 4 years ago. Cedar Fair actually licenses the name "Paramount" from Paramount. Rumor has it that both Paramount and CBS are not happy with how the parks have been managed and may revoke all their licenses, including Star Trek, soon.

We'll see.

Sagart · September 7 2008, 11:30 AM

Nerys Ghemor wrote:

Sagart wrote:

Tulin wrote:

I am sure they'd give great rates to Catholic priests!

Well, as a Catholic priest who has been to the Experience many times, I mourn its loss but regret that I can't even come here without being insulted.
As one who has worked hard these past few years to try and rebuild the shattered trust of those who expect their priests to be good men, I find the sick, perverted actions of a relativley small number of men to be anything but funny and the inference that we are all the same as them to be frankly disgusting.

I, for one, am glad you had the courage to stand up for yourself. I'm sorry I didn't have the time to answer this post sooner, but I've got your back.

I really appreciate that. Thanks very much.

September 6 2008, 08:01 AM	#1
Cmndr J Crichton Commodore Location: Moya	'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech For those who watched the final curtain of The Experience online http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZISn3...eature=related The speeker says a line that Spock and Kirk used as a metaphor for 'rebirth' in The Wrath of Kahn and Search for Spock. I know I'm just being wishful, or even hopeful, but a new major movie is on the horizon. What if this isn't a closure of Star Trek The Experience, but a refit to tie into the new movie. and new re-vitalization of the Trek universe? Now it could be in a new venue, but the speech did lead to some very interesting speculating. I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if in wihin 9 or 10 months we hear an announcement of The Return of Star Trek the Experience. This time, it has it's own hotel, Paramount/CBS owned, and a permanant residance on The Vegas Strip. The closing ceremony was nothing short of spectacular. As always, The Experience lives up to their reputaion. When the DS9 music crescendos as the curtain falls, it's very moving. Sort of saying goodbye to the old way of how we think of Trek, and looking foward to the new vision. Still, I have a feeling there was something more in that speech than simply quoting a line from a movie. A line that just happens to take the place of rebirth. __________________ A Digital Frontier to shape the human condition...not just a book plug.

September 6 2008, 08:06 AM	#2
number6 Vice Admiral Location: number6 has left the village through some inexpicable hole in the ground to head the corporation.	Re: 'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech If by "Rebirth" you mean "New Michael Jackson Themed Theatre" then you're right and they're getting right on it.

September 6 2008, 08:08 AM	#3
Cmndr J Crichton Commodore Location: Moya	Re: 'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech That's never been officially annaounced has it? Would people actually go to that thing? __________________ A Digital Frontier to shape the human condition...not just a book plug.

September 6 2008, 08:31 AM	#5
Tulin Vice Admiral Location: With the most wonderful man in the world!	Re: 'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech I am sure they'd give great rates to Catholic priests!

September 6 2008, 08:35 AM	#7
Biggshow Fleet Captain Location: Corona, CA	Re: 'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech "THe Michael Jackson Experience" is just an unlikely rumor at this point. The Hilton hasn't outright denied it but it also says that it is unlikely. In actual fact, there is nothing in the works to immediately replace STTE. For at least a year there will simply be a big hole (or perhaps some beginning construction on whatever will take its place) where STTE used to be. I'm also speaking metaphorically. What I do know is that for the week leading up to the closing, the current GM of The Fremont Street Experience (and former GM of STTE) and several former STTE engineering personel were onhand to look into the possibility of relocating at least part of The Experience to the troubled downtown Neonopolis property. Nothing has been decided and as far as I know there have been no formal negotiations started. This may have been what Mr. Boutte was alluding to. __________________ Be careful out there.

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September 6 2008, 12:30 PM	#9
Dale Vice Admiral Location: Mt. Baldy, CA	Re: 'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech Whether there is ever another Star Trek-themed attraction of that scope and scale or not, it will never be Star Trek: The Experience. That wasn't about rides or architecture or even that amazing bar... it was the people who made that place special. Nothing that replaces it could ever be quite the same. It may rise again with another name and a modernized, JJ Abrams-inspired theme. It may have kick-ass rides featuring the very latest technologies, it may have a themed bar and restaurant, and it may have an amazing troupe of performers... but that group of people in that particular environment was something special,and I am unsure whether their particular brand of magic could ever be captured again. That said... if the folks down on Fremont Street want to relocate and reopen Quark's, I'll sure as hell show up! __________________ For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. - 2 Timothy 4:3

September 6 2008, 02:49 PM	#11
kevjulian Lieutenant Location: Indiana	Re: 'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech Dale may be right but if there is ever another Quarks, I will be there. I will give what ever Star Trek Theme attraction they come up with a chance to live up to the Experience or make its own place in the Star Trek universe. I wait in anticipation of a Warp Core Breach. Kev

September 6 2008, 02:51 PM	#12
chardman Vice Admiral Location: The densely wooded mountains of Indianapolis	Re: 'Always Possibilities' Regarding ST:TE closure speech I've no doubt that "The Experience" will be back, but I doubt that it'll be in Vegas. I'm betting on King's Island, or one of Paramount's other themepark locations. __________________ "Two things that Teabaggers hate: being called 'racist', and black people." - Bill Maher "Prying the guns from their cold dead hands sounds swell." - Me