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Old September 2 2008, 04:01 AM   #16
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Re: Prison Break 4x01 "Scylla" - Discussion and Spoilers

I actually enjoyed that quite a bit. The season is off to a promising start, and I'm looking forward to seeing how things progress. Cress Williams is pretty cool as the Company hitman dude, though I can't say I'm pleased to see Gretchen still alive. But it's great to have Sarah back.
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Old September 2 2008, 03:09 PM   #17
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Re: Prison Break 4x01 "Scylla" - Discussion and Spoilers

Total utter crap.

The whole show i just based on circumstantial events (like everyone ending up in the US) and has gone from a sorta interesting show into some sort of "Mission Impossible" rip off. They really should have ended it all in season two. Way to go on totally resetting everything that happened,

"Oh the prison burnt down? Great! Oh they're in America? Well super! The head wasn't hers? Fabulous! We need a fat stupid ex corrections officer because the producer said so? Awesome!
Lincoln gets arrested because of something retarded and sent to the US? Unfreakingbelievable"

And I'm hardly a tattoo expert but doesn't tattoo removal leave bad scars?


Oh yeah and Michael has gotten chubby, ease down on the burgers.

Only fun thing is T-Bag who is really starting to remind me of Herr Starr from Preacher.
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Old September 2 2008, 04:06 PM   #18
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Re: Prison Break 4x01 "Scylla" - Discussion and Spoilers

Well, it's possible this episode was so exposition heavy because they lost 10 episodes or so of their previous season due to the writer's strike.

Plot events like the prison burning down -facilitating the escapes of TBag and Sucre, Lincoln breaking a law and being extradited to the US (not entirely impossible), Sara being alive (again, not entirely impossible) and so on could've been much longer and greater plot threads that would've been more fleshed out had they gotten a fuller third season.

The miracle tatt removal we're just going to have to shrug and deal with and accept that in the wonderful land of makebelieve these people live in there's a miraculous tatt removal (available to only high levels of government?) they used on Michael. From a plot stand-point they're not needed anymore and it's got to be frustrating to the wardrobe people to always have Michael in long sleeves to prevent the make-up people from having to put hin in the tatt, which we all know Wentworth doesn't like having to go through.

So they just got rid of it. That one we're just going to have to deal with as being necessary.

But now that we're done with the exposition heavy first episodes -again due to having to deal with the strike- I imagine the rest of the season will be pretty well on track.

What do you guys think the odds are that Kellerman will come back?
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Old September 2 2008, 09:42 PM   #19
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Eh, average. Competent action, but I really don't know how it's going to work for PB to become a low-rent variation on 24. There was a lack of what made these characters work all along, the witty back-biting interaction and conflict. Also, putting them in situations where they are the underdog and have to fight for survival is more what I watch this show for, not to watch everyone make like Jack Bauer. Maybe when T-Bag joins the gang, things will pick up.

And I'm horrified at the thought that the Dept of Homeland Security would be desperate enough to turn those that particular gang of "freelancers" to do their work. I could see Michael, Mahone and T-Bag, but what the heck are Sucre, Bellick and Sarah there for? Linc can be the muscle, but that hardly makes him unique. Can't whassisface flip open an issue of Solider of Fortune and find more likely employees?

The Asian hacker was boring and annoying, not to mention a walking cliche. Here's hoping he comes to a speedy end.

T-Bag didn't seem his usual vicious self. I thought for sure he'd figure out the coyotes' game immediately and jump them first. Mahone being low-key and in mourning won't work for long. I'm hoping he's off his meds now, and gets into nothing-to-lose badass mode.

Glad to see Gretchen survived. It gives Sarah some purpose in the story to eventually be the one to off the bitch.
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Old September 2 2008, 10:51 PM   #20
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Eh, average. Competent action, but I really don't know how it's going to work for PB to become a low-rent variation on 24.
Well, 24 won't be around for a few months yet, I believe, so it's filling a niche.
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Old September 2 2008, 11:02 PM   #21
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PB is part of Fox's clever master plan to make 24 look good by comparison when it finally returns.

Looks like this will be PB's last season (and the story can't stand to be stretched any further anyway):

PI Feedback PB Ratings.

The two-hour season-premiere of Fox’s Prison Break was a disappointment at 6.48 million viewers and a 2.6/ 7 among adults 18-49 from 8-10 p.m. Compared to it’s already below-average year-ago opener on Monday, Sept. 17, 2007 (Viewers: 7.51 million; A18-49: 3.3/ 9), that was a loss of 1.03 million viewers and 21 percent in the demo. Here is the half-hour breakdown:

Prison Break (Fox)
8:00 p.m. – Viewers: 6.16 million (#2), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#1)
8:30 p.m. – Viewers: 6.06 million (#2), A18-49: 2.5/ 6 (#2)
9:00 p.m. – Viewers: 6.65 million (#3), A18-49: 2.7/ 7 (#1)
9:30 p.m. – Viewers: 7.03 million (#1), A18-49: 2.8/ 7 (#1)
Fox has some decent shows in its fall lineup; unlike NBC, it won't be desperate enough to hang onto a show that's hovering around 7M.
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Old September 3 2008, 12:32 AM   #22
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I feel kind of silly being the only one to rate it 'Excellent'. Perhaps my opinion was exaggerated due to watching it in glorious HD for the first time!
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Old September 3 2008, 03:35 AM   #23
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i am surprised no one mentioned things like T-Bag eating a person ("You had some bad Mexican?"), or a nod to continuity (i.e. Michael Schofield having a sham-but-not-yet-dissolved-marraige from 1st season), or Bellick being an extreme Mama's boy!

Also, just so you know, I have a poll asking who you think will die this season , based on the Scylla thing they were pounding us over the head with.
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Above average (I don't want to call it 'good'). There were reminiscent feelings of Season 1 in these two episodes. But am I the only one who felt the dialogs were terribly low?
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Old September 3 2008, 04:01 PM   #25
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I thought this was a good start to a new season. Now that they're filming in LA the show looks like a Bruckheimer movie! I think this new concept, working for the gov to expose the Company, is the logical progression of the story (and indeed what I suggested they should do at the end of last season!) that avoids being repetitive. I've always like Michael Rappaport from back in Boston Public, so him being the good guy ally was a treat.

The ressurection of Sarah... I'm okay with it I guess. I was pissed at the abrupt death of Whistler and Gretchen as they were good villains to have us focus on for this (final?) year. So while I'm glad Gretchen is alive, it sucks Whistler died before we really learned what was up with him. Oh, and the new Company assassin is just awful. I dunno if its the actor or what but he was just completely uninteresting and just looked bored and in a bad way.
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Old September 3 2008, 04:14 PM   #26
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As for Season Three, I definitely enjoyed it. Of course I've always liked the show. You just have to take it with a grain of salt, like 24. It's not real-world S1 is the best season overall, but every year has its high points. S2 was nice to see them out and running across America. S3 was nice because they were back in prison, BUT WITH A TWIST! , where the inmates run the prison and the guards just keep the perimeter locked up. And since it was only what 13 episodes, it was short and sweet with very little stringing out (like in S1 when they break out only to find a new pipe in the way, lol).
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