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Old August 23 2008, 10:01 PM   #151
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Re: WB to reboot Superman franchise after awful "Superman Returns"

While I'm more than fine with Warner taking the Superman films in a new direction, I loved Superman Returns.
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Old August 23 2008, 10:15 PM   #152
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Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its official

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PERRY WHITE: Martin Sheen
I really, really like that. I'm stealing it.

SUPERMAN: Peter Krause (Six Feet Under, Dirty Sexy Money)
LOIS LANE: Cate Blanchett (I'm Not There, The Aviator)
LEX LUTHOR: Clancy Brown (Carnivale, The Shawshank Redemption)
PERRY WHITE: Martin Sheen (The West Wing, The Dead Zone)
JOR-EL: Lance Henriksen (MillenniuM, Aliens)
LARA: Joan Allen (The Contender, Nixon)
JONATHAN KENT: Patrick McGoohan (The Prisoner, Braveheart)
MARTHA KENT: Rita Moreno (Oz, West Side Story)
JIMMY OLSEN: Jared Padalecki (Supernatural, Gilmore Girls)
JOHN HENRY IRONS: Mathew St. Patrick (Six Feet Under, Reunion)
EMIL HAMILTON: Hugo Weaving (The Matrix, V for Vendetta)
ZOD: James Marsters (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Smallville)
JOHN CORBEN: Terry O'Quinn (Lost, MillenniuM)
BRAINIAC: Callum Keith Rennie (Battlestar Galactica, The X-Files: I Want To Believe)
PARASITE: Garrett Dillahunt (Deadwood, The 4400)
MERCY: Lena Headey (300, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles)
MANCHESTER BLACK: Jamie Bamber (Battlestar Galactica, L&O:UK)
MORGAN EDGE: Michael Emerson (Lost, The Practice)
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Old August 23 2008, 10:18 PM   #153
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Re: WB to reboot Superman franchise after awful "Superman Returns"

I was disappointed with Returns at first, but enjoyed it more on subsequent viewings. It's easy to tell that Bryan Singer had a passion for the first two movies and respected the character and mythology.

What worries me is this new trend of simply rebooting a franchise if Joe Public didn't really embrace to the studio's expectations. There's no need to reboot Superman, they're just milking the appeal of his origin story again instead of trying to think of new plotlines.
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Old August 23 2008, 10:22 PM   #154
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Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its official

This reboot gives me a measure of hope, but it is a tepid measure. For one, WB has now finally acknowledged that the Singer Superman was a failure; that admission shows they have woken up to reality in some degree. Secondly, the goal of emulating the Begins movies means that they have acknowledged a successful formula; the key to success or failure will be how much of the formula they actually understand.

A Superman movie could have a "darker" tone - a catalyst for such a direction could be Brainiac. Taking a cue from the animated series and the recent direction of the comics, Brainiac could be presented as an alien whose goal is to collect information and then destroy the original so that Brainiac has the only copy in the universe; this path would ultimately lead to Brainiac being in control of the entire universe as all that will remain is its ghost in his hard drive. Brainiac would be driven to possess the unique knowledge Clark holds as the last Kryptonian and pressed into collecting as quickly as possible through any means necessary before something else kills or damages Clark and the knowledge held by him and his equipment.

The above is the foundation of the Batman Begins formula. A formidable, recognizable comic villain who has never gotten proper exposure (Ra's al Ghul / Brainiac); a secondary villain adding thrust to the main villain's plot (to fill Scarecrow's shoes, you could have Parasite trying to absorb Superman's power, memories, etc.); and the last part of a Begins formula is a vehicle for touching upon Superman's origin without seeming like you're retelling Superman's origin (i.e. We see memories during absorptions / attacks that relate to the current battle scenarios Superman is locked in).

And again like Begins, the arch enemy (Luthor) should be hinted at in the first film but ultimately saved for the second film.

It would be a darker Superman movie, but it would very much be a Superman movie. Of course, this again is conditioned on just how much WB and any hired writers actually understand the Begins formula. At the very least, Begins provides the WB something more than what they've had for the past 15 years in Superman film planning; Begins is very much a blueprint to the right eye.
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Old August 23 2008, 10:24 PM   #155
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Re: WB to reboot Superman franchise after awful "Superman Returns"

Impartial news headlines: You're doing it wrong.
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Old August 23 2008, 10:27 PM   #156
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I'd rather contract genital herpes than watch X-Men III again.
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Old August 23 2008, 10:27 PM   #157
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Impartial news headlines: You're doing it wrong.
Not by MSNBC standards.
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Old August 23 2008, 10:41 PM   #158
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I'd rather contract genital herpes than watch X-Men III again.
QFT.

I've tried to find that part of my brain that remembers X3...and destroy it.

But then, I'm afraid, I might see it again...

*shudder*
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Old August 23 2008, 10:55 PM   #159
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Re: WB to reboot Superman franchise after awful "Superman Returns"

The other thread is literally still at the top of the first page... you didn't even have to do a search.
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Old August 23 2008, 10:57 PM   #160
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Merging threads.
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Old August 23 2008, 11:21 PM   #161
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Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its official

Ben Sisko3 wrote: View Post
Aragorn wrote: View Post
PERRY WHITE: Martin Sheen
I really, really like that. I'm stealing it.

SUPERMAN: Peter Krause (Six Feet Under, Dirty Sexy Money)
LOIS LANE: Cate Blanchett (I'm Not There, The Aviator)
LEX LUTHOR: Clancy Brown (Carnivale, The Shawshank Redemption)
PERRY WHITE: Martin Sheen (The West Wing, The Dead Zone)
JOR-EL: Lance Henriksen (MillenniuM, Aliens)
LARA: Joan Allen (The Contender, Nixon)
JONATHAN KENT: Patrick McGoohan (The Prisoner, Braveheart)
MARTHA KENT: Rita Moreno (Oz, West Side Story)
JIMMY OLSEN: Jared Padalecki (Supernatural, Gilmore Girls)
JOHN HENRY IRONS: Mathew St. Patrick (Six Feet Under, Reunion)
EMIL HAMILTON: Hugo Weaving (The Matrix, V for Vendetta)
ZOD: James Marsters (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Smallville)
JOHN CORBEN: Terry O'Quinn (Lost, MillenniuM)
BRAINIAC: Callum Keith Rennie (Battlestar Galactica, The X-Files: I Want To Believe)
PARASITE: Garrett Dillahunt (Deadwood, The 4400)
MERCY: Lena Headey (300, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles)
MANCHESTER BLACK: Jamie Bamber (Battlestar Galactica, L&O:UK)
MORGAN EDGE: Michael Emerson (Lost, The Practice)
Nope. That cast has 'FLOP!!' written all over it. Here's my choice, that would knock with the audience, and really make the new Superman a glamorous movie.

SUPERMAN / CLARK KENT - Michael Trucco (NuBSG, Pensacola)
LOIS LANE - Alana De La Garza (Law and Order, The Mountain)
BRAINIAC - Vin Diesel

Others, I don't care about.
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Old August 23 2008, 11:26 PM   #162
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Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its official

I say cast Christian Bale to play Superman too.

This would also lead to an interesting Batman/Superman movie.
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Old August 23 2008, 11:28 PM   #163
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I say cast Christian Bale to play Superman too.

This would also lead to an interesting Batman/Superman movie.
we wouldn't be able to understand either of them then
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Old August 24 2008, 12:00 AM   #164
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Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its official

I will say it again, Luthor stands for something that resonates with some fans of Superman, for others he does nothing which is why they brought on Darkseid in the first place. Darkseid is the villian that no one can stop. A god that strikes fear throughout the universe. He is the ultimate villian. What more perfect villian for Superman than someone that does not even think he is a threat. Superman actually should have taken Luthor out a longtime ago. Nothing prevents him from doing so other than himself. With Darkseid, he doesn't have the power or ability to take down Darkseid.

And I have said this before, and I will say it again, even in light of TDK, I don't like the Joker either, never have never will. If the Joker was in the Marvel Universe, he would have been killed a longtime ago. I prefer Ra's Al Ghul to the Joker as Batman's top villain any day.

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we have chatted long enough that you should know that I am not new to this whole superhero thing.

Hicks, you definitely need to research Superman more, especially post Crisis. He is not that "super" in his universe if you will.
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Old August 24 2008, 12:24 AM   #165
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Zack Efron as Lex Luthor
Ashley Tisdale as Miss Teschmacher
Vanessa Hudgens as Lois lane
Lucas Grabeel as Superman (I saw the stage show movie, this guy is the alpha male behind the scenes.)
Corbin Bleu as Otis

Etc, etc.
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