RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,207
Posts: 5,404,591
Members: 24,758
Currently online: 664
Newest member: ashlynnbrooke80

TrekToday headlines

Retro Review: Time’s Orphan
By: Michelle on Aug 30

September-October Trek Conventions And Appearances
By: T'Bonz on Aug 29

Lee Passes
By: T'Bonz on Aug 29

Trek Merchandise Sale
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek #39 Villain Revealed
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Trek Big Bang Figures
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek Seekers Cover Art
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Fan Film Axanar Kickstarter Success
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Two New Starship Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Actor Wins Emmy
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy

Science Fiction & Fantasy Farscape, Babylon 5, Star Wars, Firefly, vampires, genre books and film.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old August 21 2008, 12:53 AM   #16
Christopher
Writer
 
Christopher's Avatar
 
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

In my experience, the Adam West Batman is a show that you love as a serious adventure series when you're a kid, then dismiss as silly and campy when you reach adolescence and want to take everything seriously, then love again when you're fully grown up and finally figure out that it was a sitcom and was intentionally silly and campy, not to mention quite clever and subversive at times. Unless you're a comic-book geek who takes Batman way too seriously and insists on ignoring the historical reality that the character hasn't always been a grim avenger of the night.

As a sitcom, Batman was brilliantly original. People love to put down the weird and fanciful sitcoms of the '60s, shows like this and Gilligan's Island and My Favorite Martian, but at least they weren't just the thousandth sitcom in a row about a working schlub with a wife and cute kids or a teacher and his class of misfits or a bunch of young single friends hanging out together and talking incessantly about sex. Sitcoms today rarely have the originality they had in the '60s, and Batman was one of the most distinctive and unusual sitcoms ever created. It also had impressive production values and casting.
__________________
Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Site update 4/8/14 including annotations for Rise of the Federation: Tower of Babel

Written Worlds -- My blog
Christopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 01:20 AM   #17
The Old Mixer
Vice Admiral
 
The Old Mixer's Avatar
 
Location: Connecticut
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

Christopher wrote: View Post
In my experience, the Adam West Batman is a show that you love as a serious adventure series when you're a kid, then dismiss as silly and campy when you reach adolescence and want to take everything seriously, then love again when you're fully grown up and finally figure out that it was a sitcom and was intentionally silly and campy, not to mention quite clever and subversive at times.
My experience exactly, though I haven't had the opportunity to revisit more than the theatrical film as an adult. I absolutely worshipped this show in my mid-single digits...there was literally nothing cooler or more exciting in the world to me then. Then the long years when I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. Recently, I bought the movie from a bargain bin for the hell of it, and thoroughly enjoyed myself. Now I can once again appreciate the fact that this series, and this series alone, is responsible for having started my lifelong obsession with super-hero comics.

I'm curious to know if anyone else had the same experience--Was the Batman TV show primarily responsible for getting you into comics?
__________________
50 years ago on July 6: A Hard Day's Night premieres in London.
The Old Mixer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 01:38 AM   #18
tharpdevenport
Admiral
 
tharpdevenport's Avatar
 
Location: Click here for super karate monkey death MOD porn!
View tharpdevenport's Twitter Profile
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

"I'm a bacholer, but I want to live anyway."


Come on, that's funny.
__________________
Mr. Signature
Number 2 "Are you going to run?"
Number 6 "Like blazes! The first chance I get."
-Smile! God Loves You! Too bad he doesn't exist, oh and everyone else thinks you're an asshole.
tharpdevenport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 01:56 AM   #19
Professor Zoom
Vice Admiral
 
Professor Zoom's Avatar
 
Location: Idealistic
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

The Old Mixer wrote: View Post
Christopher wrote: View Post
In my experience, the Adam West Batman is a show that you love as a serious adventure series when you're a kid, then dismiss as silly and campy when you reach adolescence and want to take everything seriously, then love again when you're fully grown up and finally figure out that it was a sitcom and was intentionally silly and campy, not to mention quite clever and subversive at times.
My experience exactly, though I haven't had the opportunity to revisit more than the theatrical film as an adult. I absolutely worshipped this show in my mid-single digits...there was literally nothing cooler or more exciting in the world to me then. Then the long years when I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. Recently, I bought the movie from a bargain bin for the hell of it, and thoroughly enjoyed myself. Now I can once again appreciate the fact that this series, and this series alone, is responsible for having started my lifelong obsession with super-hero comics.

I'm curious to know if anyone else had the same experience--Was the Batman TV show primarily responsible for getting you into comics?

It may have been the reason I got into comics.

But, like you, as a kid it was MUST WATCH TV...I saw it in repeats and it was appointment watching. It was awesome fun adventure.
__________________
Batman does not eat nachos.
Professor Zoom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:45 AM   #20
Gojirob
Rear Admiral
 
Gojirob's Avatar
 
Location: Going Super Diclonius 4...
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

Professor Zoom wrote: View Post
The Old Mixer wrote: View Post
Christopher wrote: View Post
In my experience, the Adam West Batman is a show that you love as a serious adventure series when you're a kid, then dismiss as silly and campy when you reach adolescence and want to take everything seriously, then love again when you're fully grown up and finally figure out that it was a sitcom and was intentionally silly and campy, not to mention quite clever and subversive at times.
My experience exactly, though I haven't had the opportunity to revisit more than the theatrical film as an adult. I absolutely worshipped this show in my mid-single digits...there was literally nothing cooler or more exciting in the world to me then. Then the long years when I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. Recently, I bought the movie from a bargain bin for the hell of it, and thoroughly enjoyed myself. Now I can once again appreciate the fact that this series, and this series alone, is responsible for having started my lifelong obsession with super-hero comics.

I'm curious to know if anyone else had the same experience--Was the Batman TV show primarily responsible for getting you into comics?

It may have been the reason I got into comics.

But, like you, as a kid it was MUST WATCH TV...I saw it in repeats and it was appointment watching. It was awesome fun adventure.
Plus - Let us never forget - it produced some of the coolest vehicles ever seen on the screen, including the car. When I was a kid, and I saw the 66 Batmobile on TV, I knew for a fact that evil could never win. To paraphrase Kevin Conroy : Growing up, he was my hero. He still is.
__________________
The Go-To For Accurate, Thorough Information about the dark, wonderful series called Elfen Lied, both manga and anime : http://elfen-lied.wikia.com/wiki/Elfen_Lied_Wiki
Gojirob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 03:04 AM   #21
TGTheodore
Writer
 
TGTheodore's Avatar
 
Location: TGTheodore
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

Regarding the residuals questions, famous cameos were usually done for scale back then, and most likely just a one or two-run payment.

Only really smart people like Sheldon Leonard, Danny Thomas, Lucille Ball, Carl Reiner, Andy Griffith and Dick Van Dyke actually got long term "pieces" of their early TV shows.

Regular residuals for major cast members really didn't start on a wide level until around 1969/1970 with the advent of the Norman Lear shows, the MTM shows, etc.

--Ted
__________________
Writer/Composer/Lyricist/Librettist
SNW IV, V, VI
TGTheodore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 11:26 PM   #22
N-121973
Commander
 
Location: Great Britain
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

The Old Mixer wrote: View Post
Christopher wrote: View Post
In my experience, the Adam West Batman is a show that you love as a serious adventure series when you're a kid, then dismiss as silly and campy when you reach adolescence and want to take everything seriously, then love again when you're fully grown up and finally figure out that it was a sitcom and was intentionally silly and campy, not to mention quite clever and subversive at times.
My experience exactly, though I haven't had the opportunity to revisit more than the theatrical film as an adult. I absolutely worshipped this show in my mid-single digits...there was literally nothing cooler or more exciting in the world to me then. Then the long years when I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. Recently, I bought the movie from a bargain bin for the hell of it, and thoroughly enjoyed myself. Now I can once again appreciate the fact that this series, and this series alone, is responsible for having started my lifelong obsession with super-hero comics.

I'm curious to know if anyone else had the same experience--Was the Batman TV show primarily responsible for getting you into comics?
In answer to your question, absolutely, this is how I discovered the character. I didn't even realise that there were Batman comics until by chance. I used to watch the show every Saturday morning as a kid as part of something called TISWAS (Brits over a certain age on these boards will know what I'm talking about). I had several different copies of the Batmobile made by Corgi and it was when I was 6 or 7 my favourite tv show. At the moment I'm tivo-ing the show on BBC4 and watching both parts back to back on Saturday mornings as a sentimental reminder of my youth.
Speaking of old TV shows that should be on DVD, I think Disney should release the colourised editions of the old Guy Williams Zorro show from the 50s on DVD. I've watched a few clips of the colourised episodes on Youtube recently and they're quite good. Like Batman it was something I used to watch on Saturday mornings.
N-121973 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 22 2008, 12:05 AM   #23
The Old Mixer
Vice Admiral
 
The Old Mixer's Avatar
 
Location: Connecticut
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

N-121973 wrote: View Post
In answer to your question, absolutely, this is how I discovered the character. I didn't even realise that there were Batman comics until by chance.
Same here! In the U.S., the show could be found in weekday afternoon syndication in the mid-'70s. I knew what a comic book was--I think there were some Caspers and Richie Rich's around the house--but I've always distinctly remembered the day that I was browsing through the comic books at the local supermarket and had the epiphany of a lifetime--"Mommy! It's Batman--in a comic book!"

http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Detective_Comics_450

I own a copy today, though not my original. Cover date August 1975--would have come out around May. I would have been 5, finishing nursery school (an optional pre-kidnergarten at my elementary school). Yes, I could read it, thanks to a Grandma who taught me very early...though I didn't understand all the words.

My first exposure to Supes was the George Reeves appearance on I Love Lucy--none of my local channels were playing Adventures of Superman reruns at the time--followed by Super Friends. SF was also a strong influence, as I remember some of my subsequent early purchases being issues of Justice League of America and Flash (who I knew from a guest appearance on SF back when it was the big five with Wendy, Marvin, & Wonder Dog).
__________________
50 years ago on July 6: A Hard Day's Night premieres in London.
The Old Mixer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 22 2008, 01:23 AM   #24
Lookingglassman
Admiral
 
Lookingglassman's Avatar
 
Location: America
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

I loved that series when it was on. I would buy it on DVD.
Lookingglassman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 22 2008, 02:15 AM   #25
Galactus
Rear Admiral
 
Galactus's Avatar
 
Location: The High Father
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

I know many older people who too this day say this is Batman to them. They dislike greatly the dark knight as he is today. To me if you take away the silliness and jokes you end up with BTAS.
__________________
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. ~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Galactus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 22 2008, 02:21 AM   #26
M
Vice Admiral
 
M's Avatar
 
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

I love this series and would definitely buy the DVDs.
__________________
Bashir: »Out of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?«
Garak: »My dear doctor, they're all true.«
Bashir: »Even the lies?«
Garak: »Especially the lies.«
M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 22 2008, 02:41 AM   #27
LaxScrutiny
Commodore
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

I understand that both Batman and the Green Hornet series are both held back from release, both series were produced by William Dozier. It is suspected, but no one confirms, that it's Dozier's estate that is holding everything up.
LaxScrutiny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 22 2008, 03:08 AM   #28
cardinal biggles
THE ZEPPO
 
cardinal biggles's Avatar
 
Location: potrzebie
Send a message via ICQ to cardinal biggles Send a message via AIM to cardinal biggles Send a message via Yahoo to cardinal biggles
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

Even though I really love the darker take of the Burton and Nolan films, and really liked TAS, I would buy this in a heartbeat if it ever came out on DVD.
__________________
"For those of you playing the home game, this is what is known as a 'Prince Albert'. And I'm sure that was his last wish. 'Victoria, I'm dying. I want you to name a museum, a performance hall, and a bolt through the cock after me.'"
—Robin Williams, Live on Broadway
cardinal biggles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 22 2008, 07:44 AM   #29
Cmndr J Crichton
Commodore
 
Cmndr J Crichton's Avatar
 
Location: Moya
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

It will come out eventually. The Dark Knight continues to smash records at the box office, I wouldn't be suprised that it comes out when TDK comes out on DVD and Blu Ray. Perhaps they're waiting for Blue Ray finalization! BTW, seen TDK three times now, and plan to see it a few times more before it leaves the theater!
__________________
A Digital Frontier to shape the human condition...not just a book plug.
Cmndr J Crichton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 23 2008, 01:52 AM   #30
Mr. Laser Beam
Fleet Admiral
 
Mr. Laser Beam's Avatar
 
Location: The visitor's bullpen
View Mr. Laser Beam's Twitter Profile
Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

TG Theodore wrote: View Post
Regarding the residuals questions, famous cameos were usually done for scale back then, and most likely just a one or two-run payment.

Only really smart people like Sheldon Leonard, Danny Thomas, Lucille Ball, Carl Reiner, Andy Griffith and Dick Van Dyke actually got long term "pieces" of their early TV shows.

Regular residuals for major cast members really didn't start on a wide level until around 1969/1970 with the advent of the Norman Lear shows, the MTM shows, etc.
The Wiki link for the series says that some of these cameos were done as uncredited, unpaid walk-ons. How, if any, would this complicate the rights issues?
__________________
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Mr. Laser Beam is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
batman, superheroes

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:51 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.