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Old August 24 2008, 08:27 PM   #1
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Hellboy

Finally got around to seeing the first movie - pretty fun! One question, are Frasier's fishy brother and the firestarter girl also immigrants from the HP Lovecraft dimension that Hellboy came from? And if so, how did they get through? (To be explained in future movies?)
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Old August 24 2008, 09:04 PM   #2
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No they didn't, their origin is never explained in the movie (I don't think) but I doubt they came from the same place.
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Old August 24 2008, 09:26 PM   #3
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Their origin isn't explained in the second movie, either. And David Hyde Pierce doesn't voice the character in the second film, but I didn't notice the difference. Doug Jones does more than a satisfying job in my opinion.
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Old August 24 2008, 09:32 PM   #4
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Temis the Vorta wrote: View Post
Finally got around to seeing the first movie - pretty fun! One question, are Frasier's fishy brother and the firestarter girl also immigrants from the HP Lovecraft dimension that Hellboy came from? And if so, how did they get through? (To be explained in future movies?)
Abe Sapien's origin isn't explained in the movies, but Wiki says:

Sapien was formerly Langdon Everett Caul, a powerful businessman involved with a strange cult during the Victorian era. After retrieving a strange jellyfish-like deity from an underwater ruin, Caul and other gentlemen perform an arcane ritual that ends with the creature's release and Caul being turned into an icthyo sapien.
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Old August 24 2008, 09:38 PM   #5
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The Troll Market through to the Elemental sequence in Hellboy II is the best thing I've seen in a theater all summer!
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Old August 24 2008, 09:49 PM   #6
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IIRC, Abe Sapien is described in Hellboy 1 as having been found in a tank under a portrait of Abraham Lincoln and said tank was labelled Icthyo Sapien, hence the name Abe Sapien...
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Old August 24 2008, 09:58 PM   #7
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And David Hyde Pierce doesn't voice the character in the second film, but I didn't notice the difference.
David Hyde Pierce wasn't credited for the role anywhere I could find. Is it possible that was Doug Jones all the time? It sounded exactly like David Hyde Pierce.
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Old August 24 2008, 10:00 PM   #8
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He performed the role uncredited in the first Hellboy.

According to IMDB, he didn't want to be credited, out of respect for Doug Jones' performance. Jones is pretty good providing the voice as well, in both Hellboy II and Hellboy: Animated.
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Old August 24 2008, 10:13 PM   #9
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According to IMDB, he didn't want to be credited, out of respect for Doug Jones' performance.
False modesty, considering how easily recognized his voice is.

Doug Jones was pretty amazing in that Fear Itself episode.
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Old August 25 2008, 04:53 AM   #10
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The Troll Market through to the Elemental sequence in Hellboy II is the best thing I've seen in a theater all summer!

That scene was fantastic. Just wild creativity all around.

My favorite scene in the film, though, remains the Angel of Deah scene. It was just beautiful.
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Old August 25 2008, 05:01 AM   #11
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He performed the role uncredited in the first Hellboy.

According to IMDB, he didn't want to be credited, out of respect for Doug Jones' performance. Jones is pretty good providing the voice as well, in both Hellboy II and Hellboy: Animated.
I know I'm in the minority here, but, I'm not gonna lie - I preferred Pierce's voice over Jones'.
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Old August 25 2008, 07:26 AM   #12
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He performed the role uncredited in the first Hellboy.

According to IMDB, he didn't want to be credited, out of respect for Doug Jones' performance. Jones is pretty good providing the voice as well, in both Hellboy II and Hellboy: Animated.
I know I'm in the minority here, but, I'm not gonna lie - I preferred Pierce's voice over Jones'.
It's not that I prefer one over the other. I just couldn't for the life of me distinguish from the two (but the animated series was a different beast, and its not like I've been able to see the second film at my own pace to listen to the voice).
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Old August 25 2008, 06:09 PM   #13
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My favorite Hellboy 2 scene was the locker room scene. Good lord I was dying laughing.

But overall Hellboy 2 was surprisingly excellent, far exceeding the first one. Possibly my second favorite flick of the summer!
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Old August 25 2008, 08:18 PM   #14
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He performed the role uncredited in the first Hellboy.

According to IMDB, he didn't want to be credited, out of respect for Doug Jones' performance. Jones is pretty good providing the voice as well, in both Hellboy II and Hellboy: Animated.
I know I'm in the minority here, but, I'm not gonna lie - I preferred Pierce's voice over Jones'.
I found it distracting. I kept thinking about Fraser's brother rather than the character. A voice that distinctive is good in cartoons, but doesn't quite fit with live action.

The plotline to the first Hellboy was kinda eh, didn't really like the villains and focusing on the helldogs and their "eggs" didn't really do it for me. The positives were that the three "mutant" characters were introduced well and are interesting enough to carry through several movies, plus the background mythology is good. Sounds like #2 is much better.
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Old August 25 2008, 08:32 PM   #15
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I enjoyed both films. I didn't think DHP's voice was distracting, and I got used to the other guy after about two scenes in H2. What I did find distracting was the elf prince. His voice, and physique kept reminding me of Tom Cruise in Interview with a Vampire. Oh, how I wanted him to die.
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