RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 135,781
Posts: 5,217,261
Members: 24,217
Currently online: 720
Newest member: davestar057

TrekToday headlines

Q Meets NuTrek Crew
By: T'Bonz on Apr 18

Pine In Talks For Drama
By: T'Bonz on Apr 18

New X-Men: Days of Future Past Trailer
By: T'Bonz on Apr 17

Nimoy to Receive Award
By: T'Bonz on Apr 17

Star Trek Special: Flesh and Stone Comic
By: T'Bonz on Apr 16

These Are The Voyages TOS Season Two Book Review
By: T'Bonz on Apr 16

Kirk’s Well Wishes To Kirk
By: T'Bonz on Apr 15

Quinto In New Starz Series
By: T'Bonz on Apr 15

Star Trek: Horizon Film
By: T'Bonz on Apr 14

Star Trek: Fleet Captains Game Expansion
By: T'Bonz on Apr 14


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy

Science Fiction & Fantasy Farscape, Babylon 5, Star Wars, Firefly, vampires, genre books and film.

View Poll Results: How do you rate this episode?
Excellent 21 40.38%
Very Good 22 42.31%
Good 4 7.69%
Mediocre 4 7.69%
Terrible 1 1.92%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old August 21 2008, 01:54 AM   #46
grabmygoblin
Commodore
 
grabmygoblin's Avatar
 
Location: Albany, NY
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

watching it now... man, I hate these episodes, I always feel just as embarrassed as the characters.
__________________
romulan meatloaf again?!
grabmygoblin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:03 AM   #47
Vendikarr
Rear Admiral
 
Vendikarr's Avatar
 
Location: Vendikarr
Send a message via AIM to Vendikarr
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

Sharr Khan wrote: View Post
There is a little "For now" tagged onto that blog. Never say never I say!

Sharr
Makes me think of "The Princess Bride." Is he 'dead dead,' or 'mostly dead.'

Death doesn't have to be final in sci-fi. And even if the intent is for him to be gone forever, his departure leaves the door open for his return, should he elect to at some point.
__________________
"They have to help the viewers let go. Firefly did a movie to wrap things up. Buffy the Vampire Slayer continued on as a comic book. Heroes gradually lowered the quality season by season until we were grateful it ended.” - Sheldon Cooper
Vendikarr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:08 AM   #48
Kaijufan
Rear Admiral
 
Kaijufan's Avatar
 
Location: Amana, Iowa
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

I'm sure he's dead until the actor wants to return for a guest spot or maybe even full time.
__________________

Kaijufan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:11 AM   #49
Emh
Doctor of TARDIS
 
Emh's Avatar
 
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Send a message via ICQ to Emh Send a message via AIM to Emh Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Emh Send a message via Yahoo to Emh
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

WalkinMan wrote: View Post
Just found this link to one of the Eureka screenwriter's blogs, in which he discusses Stark's departure for the show.

http://revealthescience.blogspot.com...ye-nathan.html

He also responds to the "Tholian Web" reference, 'no one is dead in scifi', etc. found in this thread and possibly elsewhere.

Seems Stark is gone for good and it was Ed Quinn's decision to leave the show.
Damn, I wonder why he wanted to leave.

Oh, and I don't think we saw that shot of Henry kissing Lexi's hand.

Speaking of Henry, I think it's very interesting that none of us batted an eye over the fact that Henry is an ordained minister.
__________________
"Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas

"I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila
Emh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:16 AM   #50
WalkinMan
Commodore
 
WalkinMan's Avatar
 
Location: USA
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

Emh wrote: View Post
Damn, I wonder why he wanted to leave.
I read speculation elsewhere that it was the extended 20+ episode order for this 3rd season, which may have left him feeling too 'tied up' for the year.

Who knows, he is now also doing Cadillac commercials here in the US...

Emh wrote: View Post
Speaking of Henry, I think it's very interesting that none of us batted an eye over the fact that Henry is an ordained minister.
Yeah, that was interesting, however IIRC he also had that position, ministering a service in Eureka S1e2, "Many Happy Returns."
__________________
The lost TOS missions - ''Star Trek: Secret of Vulcan Fury''
w/ original cast voiceovers!
Switch to Firefox!
WalkinMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:30 AM   #51
grabmygoblin
Commodore
 
grabmygoblin's Avatar
 
Location: Albany, NY
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

*finishes* aww, geez...

glad they mostly avoided the "embarrass the hell out of the character who is stuck" shtick, but I am a tiny bit saddened that Carter was too mature to take advantage of the loop, ala O'Neil and Teal'c. well, ok, he did kinda, but only within his work.
__________________
romulan meatloaf again?!
grabmygoblin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:43 AM   #52
Emh
Doctor of TARDIS
 
Emh's Avatar
 
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Send a message via ICQ to Emh Send a message via AIM to Emh Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Emh Send a message via Yahoo to Emh
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

WalkinMan wrote: View Post
Emh wrote: View Post
Damn, I wonder why he wanted to leave.
I read speculation elsewhere that it was the extended 20+ episode order for this 3rd season, which may have left him feeling too 'tied up' for the year.

Who knows, he is now also doing Cadillac commercials here in the US...
Ah, that makes sense. Maybe Terri knows what other projects Ed has lined up.

WalkinMan wrote: View Post
Emh wrote: View Post
Speaking of Henry, I think it's very interesting that none of us batted an eye over the fact that Henry is an ordained minister.
Yeah, that was interesting, however IIRC he also had that position, ministering a service in Eureka S1e2, "Many Happy Returns."
I figured that was probably the case, but I honestly couldn't remember.

Still, even for those of us who couldn't remember, didn't even bat an eye.
__________________
"Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas

"I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila
Emh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:50 AM   #53
Technobuilder
Commodore
 
Technobuilder's Avatar
 
Location: Nashville, TN
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

Vendikarr wrote: View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a 'Tholian Web' on us, and have Stark pop up every now and then, most likely to Allison. With her being the only one to see him, no one will believe her. Except Carter, who's been there more times than I can count.
Technobuilder wrote: View Post
Vendikarr wrote: View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a 'Tholian Web' on us, and have Stark pop up every now and then, most likely to Allison. With her being the only one to see him, no one will believe her. Except Carter, who's been there more times than I can count.
I have no doubt that Nathan Stark will return.

Eureka tends to do stand-alone episodes with an over-reaching arc through out the season to give the last few episodes of the season some scope.

In all honesty, to think Stark's permanently dead is the least likely of all the current options. Especially with no body and more than half of the current season left to air.

Just wait it out.
Emher wrote: View Post
^I really really hope you're right. I cried a bit when he died and was in shock for a bit afterwards. I really like Nathan a lot, easily one of my favorite characters of the show.

Excellent rating from me.

Well, after reading that Blog entry, I'll say that my initial reasoning (though sound) has now gone out the window. (Mostly)

If the actor wanted to leave, then that was a pretty nice farewell episode that serviced both the character & the storyline. Of course, like he mentions, although Stark is now "dead" that doesn't preclude him from returning "at-some-point-in-the-future-maybe".

And who knows, it could be within this very season. Just because he'll no longer be a regular character, doesn't mean he can't now be the guy who shows up from time-to-time. Daniel Jackson did that a time or two you know.
__________________
"You fool! You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia", but only slightly less well known is this - "Never go in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line!"
Technobuilder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 03:07 AM   #54
witchie
Commodore
 
witchie's Avatar
 
Location: Georgia
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

Thanks for the link to the blog. I appreciate the fact he took the time to let the fans know it wasn't a ratings gimmick. The writers really took the time to make the episode great, and it shows.

I wish Ed O'Neill all the best. :sniff:
__________________
"Live every day like it's Shark Week." Tracy Jordan, 30 Rock
"The world is a mess...and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible
Avatar by acid_graphics
witchie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 03:18 AM   #55
Skywalker
Admiral
 
Skywalker's Avatar
 
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

^ That's nice of you, but Ed O'Neill has nothing to do with Eureka.

It's too bad Ed Quinn wanted to leave. I'm gonna miss the antagonism he and Carter had going. That, plus like Zane said a couple of episodes ago, Carter, Stark, and Henry are the show's "money team." It won't be the same without him.

Oh well, I'm confident that the writers have figured out a way to make this work really well. Stark's send-off was nicely done.
Skywalker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 03:29 AM   #56
witchie
Commodore
 
witchie's Avatar
 
Location: Georgia
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

Skywalker wrote: View Post
^ That's nice of you, but Ed O'Neill has nothing to do with Eureka.

It's too bad Ed Quinn wanted to leave. I'm gonna miss the antagonism he and Carter had going. That, plus like Zane said a couple of episodes ago, Carter, Stark, and Henry are the show's "money team." It won't be the same without him.

Oh well, I'm confident that the writers have figured out a way to make this work really well. Stark's send-off was nicely done.
I typed that. Looked at it. Thought there was something wrong with it, but hit reply anyway.

Ugh...please don't mention Zane. Now, I'm worried this means more Zane. I don't want any more Zane than those 30-45 sec Degree commercials.
__________________
"Live every day like it's Shark Week." Tracy Jordan, 30 Rock
"The world is a mess...and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible
Avatar by acid_graphics
witchie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 05:45 AM   #57
nevermore
Admiral
 
nevermore's Avatar
 
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

I really disliked it. I can't stand the sister, and since Stark was pretty much the last character left that wasn't getting on my nerves, I'm probably done with it. Ah well.
__________________
What is a country without the shackles of it's past?
nevermore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 06:51 AM   #58
The Cutest of Borg
Rear Admiral
 
The Cutest of Borg's Avatar
 
Location: The Cutest of Borg - Metro Phoenix, AZ
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

Emh wrote: View Post
Speaking of Henry, I think it's very interesting that none of us batted an eye over the fact that Henry is an ordained minister.
Well he is Henry Deacon.
__________________
"I am The Cutest of Borg. From this time forward, you will service... me!"

My Office Space spoof
The Cutest of Borg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:05 PM   #59
Forbin
Admiral
 
Forbin's Avatar
 
Location: I said out, dammit!
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

The only thing I like about the faux Degree infomercials is that Pat Murphy Stark is in them. She's a local cable commercial celeb, plus she's a freind of a friend and I worked with her one day on a (failed) video project.
Forbin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21 2008, 02:36 PM   #60
Emh
Doctor of TARDIS
 
Emh's Avatar
 
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Send a message via ICQ to Emh Send a message via AIM to Emh Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Emh Send a message via Yahoo to Emh
Re: Eureka - "I Do Over" (spoilers)

The Cutest of Borg wrote: View Post
Emh wrote: View Post
Speaking of Henry, I think it's very interesting that none of us batted an eye over the fact that Henry is an ordained minister.
Well he is Henry Deacon.
Yeah, I thought about that when I first same him doing the wedding.
__________________
"Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas

"I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila
Emh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
eureka

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:03 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.