Titan question - Sariel Rager

James Swallow · August 25 2008, 11:34 AM

A question about the character of Sariel Rager for the group mind...

As noted over at Memory Alpha -

In Death in Winter Rager continues serving on the Enterprise and later Enterprise-E as helmsman until the Battle of the Bassen Rift. After which, she is promoted to Lieutenant Commander and takes a post as second officer aboard the USS Hedderjin.
Contradictorily, the Star Trek: Titan book series, has Rager transferring to the USS Titan with Captain Riker, also after the battle of the Bassen Rift, although still a Lieutenant.

Has Rager's posting on either ship been confirmed in any book post-Death in Winter/Taking Wing?

David Mack · August 25 2008, 11:50 AM

Rager remains part of the Titan crew as a Lieutenant. This part of the DiW continuity has been overridden in the current shared TrekLit continuity.

Csalem · August 25 2008, 03:14 PM

Maybe there could be a NF type retcon done when Lefler was promoted, demoted and repromoted, or when Shelby thought she had been made captain but it was somebody else.

James Swallow · August 25 2008, 04:19 PM

David Mack wrote:

Rager remains part of the Titan crew as a Lieutenant. This part of the DiW continuity has been overridden in the current shared TrekLit continuity.

Thanks for the clarification, matey.

BrotherBenny · August 26 2008, 01:59 PM

Is it my imagination, or are there numerous bits of Death in Winter which seem to have been sidelined or contradicted?

Can't think of any specifics right at this second.

Christopher · August 26 2008, 03:41 PM

The very brief Rager scene in DiW is the only part I can think of that raises any continuity issues, and it's easily fixed just by substituting someone else's name for Rager's.

BrotherBenny · August 26 2008, 04:44 PM

Fair enough, it's been a long while since I read it. I just thought there were others, must be thinking of one of the two hundred plus books I've read since then.

tenmei · August 26 2008, 05:33 PM

Is there anyway it could be explained?

Marco Palmieri · August 26 2008, 05:35 PM

tenmei wrote:

Is there anyway it could be explained?

Easily: I goofed.

KRAD · August 26 2008, 05:42 PM

Marco Palmieri wrote:

tenmei wrote:

Is there anyway it could be explained?

Easily: I goofed.

Wow. That was easy....

Emh · August 26 2008, 05:49 PM

Marco? Goofing? Say it ain't so!

tenmei · August 26 2008, 07:21 PM

Lol, nice one, Marco. But I meant an in-universe one like the explanations for Lefler and Shelby.

William Leisner · August 26 2008, 07:28 PM

It was Roger Soriel who went to the Hedderjin; Picard was always getting those two confused...

HappyDayRiot · August 26 2008, 07:37 PM

Continuity goofs from DiW? Worf meets Janeway in this book, on the E-E.

In Resistance, it is written that Worf has never met Janeway at all. I believe it's when he's about to come up with his super saucer-separation/cloaking/speed-run plan.

Julio Angel Ortiz · August 27 2008, 02:28 AM

Marco Palmieri wrote:

tenmei wrote:

Is there anyway it could be explained?

Easily: I goofed.

Nothing makes sense anymore.

August 25 2008, 11:50 AM	#2
David Mack Writer Location: New York, NY	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager Rager remains part of the Titan crew as a Lieutenant. This part of the DiW continuity has been overridden in the current shared TrekLit continuity. __________________ ~ David Mack \| "Where were you when the page was blank?" — Truman Capote Join me on Facebook & Twitter

August 25 2008, 03:14 PM	#3
Csalem Commodore Location: Dublin, Ireland	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager Maybe there could be a NF type retcon done when Lefler was promoted, demoted and repromoted, or when Shelby thought she had been made captain but it was somebody else. __________________ Csalem

August 26 2008, 01:59 PM	#5
BrotherBenny Rear Admiral Location: BrotherBenny	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager Is it my imagination, or are there numerous bits of Death in Winter which seem to have been sidelined or contradicted? Can't think of any specifics right at this second. __________________ "Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined." - Henry David Thoreau My blog / My crime stories

August 26 2008, 03:41 PM	#6
Christopher Writer	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager The very brief Rager scene in DiW is the only part I can think of that raises any continuity issues, and it's easily fixed just by substituting someone else's name for Rager's. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

August 26 2008, 04:44 PM	#7
BrotherBenny Rear Admiral Location: BrotherBenny	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager Fair enough, it's been a long while since I read it. I just thought there were others, must be thinking of one of the two hundred plus books I've read since then. __________________ "Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined." - Henry David Thoreau My blog / My crime stories

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August 26 2008, 05:33 PM	#8
tenmei Fleet Captain Location: Manchester, UK	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager Is there anyway it could be explained? __________________ Follow my literary odyssey at 52 Weeks, 26 Books ...

August 26 2008, 05:49 PM	#11
Emh The Doctor Location: Japan	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager Marco? Goofing? Say it ain't so! __________________ "Eccleston was a tiger and Tennant was, well, Tigger. Smith [is] an uncoordinated housecat who pretends that he meant to do that after falling off a piece of furniture." - Lynne M. Thomas "I'm in Hell and it's full of Avons!" - Vila

August 26 2008, 07:21 PM	#12
tenmei Fleet Captain Location: Manchester, UK	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager Lol, nice one, Marco. But I meant an in-universe one like the explanations for Lefler and Shelby. __________________ Follow my literary odyssey at 52 Weeks, 26 Books ...

August 26 2008, 07:28 PM	#13
William Leisner Scribbler Location: Minneapolis, MN	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager It was Roger Soriel who went to the Hedderjin; Picard was always getting those two confused...

August 26 2008, 07:37 PM	#14
HappyDayRiot Commodore Location: Cardiff, Wales	Re: Titan question - Sariel Rager Continuity goofs from DiW? Worf meets Janeway in this book, on the E-E. In Resistance, it is written that Worf has never met Janeway at all. I believe it's when he's about to come up with his super saucer-separation/cloaking/speed-run plan. __________________ "All you ever feel is anger. Why can't you ever express anything else?" Francine "Because people make me mad all the time for being stupid about everything!" Stan