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Old July 24 2008, 03:52 PM   #1
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So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

Just now finally getting around to watching this show via DVD and I gotta wonder...WHY was this cancelled? It must have had a crappy slot or up against something else very popular...so what gives?

I apologize if this has been answered recently.
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Old July 24 2008, 04:56 PM   #2
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Re: So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

This was a GREAT show. One of the very few shows about teenagers that was realistic and utterly intelligent - it managed to be hilarious and heartbreaking at the same time.

But I think the ratings sucked because, in part, it was constantly pre-empted and its schedule changed.
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Old July 24 2008, 06:36 PM   #3
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Re: So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

I didn't pay attention to the show during its on-air run, but I have to believe the fact that it's not easily classifiable into "crime" or "soap opera" or other common TV genres probably had something to do with it. The networks seem to have a hard time advertising things that fall outside their convenient little boxes.
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Old July 24 2008, 06:58 PM   #4
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Re: So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

It was also on NBC on Saturday Nights.

Yes the show is great through. Greek reminds me of a dumb down Freaks and Geek, so you could always true that.

Life as We Know It is another great high school show that was canceled too soon. ABC stuck it on Thursday at 8 which was the same time The OC season 2 was on and ABC didn't try to move the show.
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Old July 24 2008, 08:42 PM   #5
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Re: So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

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It was also on NBC on Saturday Nights.

Yeah, Saturday nights pretty much killed the show right away. NBC then moved it to Mondays, but it was too late by then. The Who Wants to Be A Millionare? craze also helped to kill the show. It was around this time ABC was airing it every night and putting it up against almost everything. Another thing NBC did was they wouldn't air Kim Kelly Is My Friend, because they thought it was too harsh and mean. Whatever that means. That episode finally aired on Fox Family which is kind of funny when you think about it. That was an important episode too, because it showed Lindsay and Kim starting to become friends for the first time.
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Old July 24 2008, 10:24 PM   #6
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Re: So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

You think Life As We Know It was good? It sucked completely. I tried to watch it because it was filmed in Vancouver and that's where my parents were living at the time, but the cast had absolutely no chemistry and despite how much I love Kelly Osbourne, she couldn't play the character they had her playing.

I did, however, love The Mountain (cancelled, but it did suck at the end) and The Bradford Diaries (cancelled, but it didn't suck and was just screwed by debuting in March) and even Young Americans (even though it made Dawsons Creek look like a fast paced show).
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Old July 24 2008, 11:32 PM   #7
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I liked Life As We Know It, the acting for fine for what it was, much better than most teen soaps.
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Old July 25 2008, 01:51 AM   #8
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Freaks and Geeks is one of my all-time favorite shows. I was only able to catch one episode during its run, and then watched the final three after its cancellation. One of the best shows on TV and it's a shame it was canceled. At least it wasn't around for the quality to eventually drop, I suppose. But still, what I wouldn't have given to see just one more new episode.

Bad timeslots did a number to show and the fact that TV audiences just don't appreciate shows like this. I'm glad though that a lot of the cast and crew are doing so well.
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Old July 29 2008, 03:32 PM   #9
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That show was awesome. I was so happy when they released it on dvd.
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Old July 29 2008, 04:40 PM   #10
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Not having ever seen it I can only guess that it might have something to do with two of the words in the title, neither of which is "and".
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Old July 29 2008, 07:45 PM   #11
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Re: So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

You don't know who Frank Conniff or Joel Hodgson are. You have no say in anything.
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Old July 29 2008, 07:59 PM   #12
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You don't know who Frank Conniff or Joel Hodgson are. You have no say in anything.
I do now I Googled them.
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Old July 30 2008, 12:51 AM   #13
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Freaks And Geeks is one of the finest shows I've ever seen. I bought the expensive Yearbook Edition of the DVDs based solely on word of mouth from some fellow DVD fanatics and it was worth every penny.
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Old July 30 2008, 03:18 AM   #14
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Re: So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

What's too bad is that Paul Feig isn't writing anymore. Nothing against Apatow, but after all these Apatow films... I think it was Feig who made the show special.
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Old August 1 2008, 12:40 AM   #15
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Re: So what killed FREAKS AND GEEKS?

mrcoaster wrote: View Post
Freaks And Geeks is one of the finest shows I've ever seen. I bought the expensive Yearbook Edition of the DVDs based solely on word of mouth from some fellow DVD fanatics and it was worth every penny.
There's actually a reissue of that coming out soon--I got the basic edition, but I have to say I'm tempted. Great show. I saw most of it first run. It's got a real authenticity to it that most shows about teens just don't have, or can't maintain even if they do have nuggets here and there.

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What's too bad is that Paul Feig isn't writing anymore. Nothing against Apatow, but after all these Apatow films... I think it was Feig who made the show special.
Feig is great. I've read a couple of his essay collections, too, and he's just hilarious.
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