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Old August 10 2008, 09:18 PM   #1
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Law & Order: Criminal Intent - "Neighborhood Watch" - Logan/Wheeler

Wheeler and Logan investigate the murder of a man found decapitated, mutilated and stabbed in Maspeth Creek, a neighborhood that did not welcome him.
I'm sensing a mob mentality episode...
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Old August 11 2008, 02:33 AM   #2
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Re: Law & Order: Criminal Intent - "Neighborhood Watch" - Logan/Wheele

I see that Leslie Hope's playing yet another character named Teri.

And I'm only halfway through the ep, but I bet that this friend of Ross is up to no good. That's how it usually works.
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Old August 11 2008, 02:40 AM   #3
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Re: Law & Order: Criminal Intent - "Neighborhood Watch" - Logan/Wheele

Still a few hours away here on the west coast. Looking forward to it. It's always a pleasure when the show gets away from yet another 'murdered rich celebrity' story.

Gotta admit that despite a rocky start, since the buried magician case the stories have gotten a whole lot better. Its good to see the show back on track.
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Old August 11 2008, 03:01 AM   #4
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Re: Law & Order: Criminal Intent - "Neighborhood Watch" - Logan/Wheele

So the mob mentality of the neighborhood watch was merely a red herring. And for what? Some "thrill" seeker who didn't actually the murder. The last two minutes was a complete waste.

Looks like we're skipping Goren and Eames next week and going straight to Logan's final case. Hopefully he gets a better send-off than he did 13 years ago (Exiled notwithstanding, which I've unfortunately not seen yet).
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Old August 11 2008, 03:05 AM   #5
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Re: Law & Order: Criminal Intent - "Neighborhood Watch" - Logan/Wheele

So the cop sabotaged the car? Could he be charged with any part of the murder? Even assuming he wasn't actively in cahoots with the two kids who actually killed the guy?

I was expecting the Queens ADA (or wherever she was from) to be behind the whole thing: She gets the kids to kill the guy for her, and she reaps the fame and fortune gained thereby. Especially since she railroaded the original victim into claiming it was rape *and* threatened to tack on a kidnapping charge.
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Old August 11 2008, 04:36 AM   #6
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Re: Law & Order: Criminal Intent - "Neighborhood Watch" - Logan/Wheele

The episode was kind of confusing on whether Ricky (?) was telling the truth about killing Kyle. Apparently he did commit the murder, but he told so many lies in his confession that it was hard to tell when he was telling the truth. For a moment, I thought Logan and Wheeler had figured out that he wasn't the guy, just an accomplice for the real guy. When he said he felt kind of meh about the murder and probably wouldn't do it again, I thought the look they exchanged was meant to say "He didn't really do it, because he doesn't have enough passion to be consistent with stabbing the guy 15 times." When we then saw Logan with the vindictive cop, I thought it was leading toward exposing the cop as the real killer. So it did kind of seem to fizzle out in the last minutes, giving us a weak and confusing reveal and then trailing off with too much denouement.

Also, the bit with the friend of the captain's throwing in the serial-killer angle seemed kind of pointless.
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Old August 11 2008, 05:40 AM   #7
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^ I thought it seemed pointless too. Though, perhaps, it was just to show how far some people will go to be famous or get their names out there.

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So the cop sabotaged the car? Could he be charged with any part of the murder? Even assuming he wasn't actively in cahoots with the two kids who actually killed the guy?
Perhaps as an accessory but it's pushing it? I haven't seen that part yet so I'm not entirely sure - plus my focus is on business law. With the sabotaged car you may be able to get attempted murder.
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Old August 11 2008, 08:24 AM   #8
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So was the bad TV show "CSI"?
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Old August 11 2008, 01:48 PM   #9
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^ I thought it seemed pointless too. Though, perhaps, it was just to show how far some people will go to be famous or get their names out there.
Yeah, but what did it have to do with the story? It was just padding. I mean, sure, it's common enough for an L&O episode to have the cops following a variety of false leads for a while before homing in on the real culprit, but this went too far -- introducing someone who was an old friend of the captain, then having him betray the captain and destroy that relationship for no apparent reason, and then doing nothing to follow up on such a major interpersonal development? I mean, that was something that deserved more exploration than it got. If they weren't going to make it a major part of the episode, they shouldn't have made the guy a friend of the captain. They should've just started with him on the faux Nancy Grace show making his allegations, then had the cops follow up on that and find it was just another false lead. I suppose the serial-killer angle did serve some purpose in that it gave Ricky incentive to confess in hopes of gaining infamy. But the friend-betraying-the-captain angle shouldn't have been included if it wasn't going to go anywhere.
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Old August 11 2008, 04:00 PM   #10
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Re: Law & Order: Criminal Intent - "Neighborhood Watch" - Logan/Wheele

Logan talking to Rodgers is always hilarious. "Hey Rodgers, can you do that thing where you cut the guy's finger off..."
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Old August 11 2008, 05:11 PM   #11
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Logan talking to Rodgers is always hilarious. "Hey Rodgers, can you do that thing where you cut the guy's finger off..."
That was hilarious. Easily the best moment of the whole episode. Logan and Rodgers have such a great rapport.
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Old August 11 2008, 05:21 PM   #12
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The friend was thrown in to push the serial killer angle, so I saw the reason for it. I thought the whole story of the man accused of something of he didn't do, being sent to prison, harassed and then killed was really tragic. I thought the plot was very interesting,but some parts were a bit rushed. I would've liked to have seen more about the actual killer--we usually get to see more of the guilty party than we do in this one.

The episode just felt a bit lopsided to me, like they cut stuff out at the last minute or something.

I give it a mediocre. I like the idea behind the story, but not the way it was laid out.
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Old August 11 2008, 07:01 PM   #13
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^ I just realized why this episode seemed so familiar. It was done on SVU or at least a similar storyline was.
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^ I just realized why this episode seemed so familiar. It was done on SVU or at least a similar storyline was.
Which SVU episode was it?
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I remember one like this early in the series and it was a Munch episode centric episode. At the end though he went to the victim of the rape (it wasn't a rape in her story either - it was mutual) to tell him that he'd been killed.
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