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Old August 5 2008, 08:58 PM   #16
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Re: First Cut of 'Star Trek XI' Finished

Besides the "we are very pleased" thing, which still has it's humorous uses, and will continue to do so if Abrams screws this up, the suits at Paramount aren't going to tell someone of his stature that his film sucks, regardless of where they feel it sits on the Suck-0-Meter. It may be good, it may even be very good, thus scoring a 0 (not sucky at all), but it may also score a big fat 10.

Can you imagine what would happen if the film stinks, the suits thought it was awful, they told Abrams as much, and that all leaked out prior to the film's release?

Going on the past experience of Insurrection, Nemesis and Enterprise, perhaps that infamous line should be changed to We are very easily pleased.
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Old August 5 2008, 09:15 PM   #17
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Pakled prescreeners - "We look for things to make us pleased."
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Old August 5 2008, 10:46 PM   #18
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Besides the "we are very pleased" thing, which still has it's humorous uses, and will continue to do so if Abrams screws this up, the suits at Paramount aren't going to tell someone of his stature that his film sucks, regardless of where they feel it sits on the Suck-0-Meter. It may be good, it may even be very good, thus scoring a 0 (not sucky at all), but it may also score a big fat 10.

Can you imagine what would happen if the film stinks, the suits thought it was awful, they told Abrams as much, and that all leaked out prior to the film's release?

Going on the past experience of Insurrection, Nemesis and Enterprise, perhaps that infamous line should be changed to We are very easily pleased.
Agreed. I think it should go without saying that EVERY movie that's been released has met with the approval of studio executives somewhere along the way.

For every Dark Knight that gets released, there are probably a hundred Daredevils, Elektras and Shadows.

Given that the gross majority of movies fail to meet those expectations, it's hardly something that one would want to hang their hopes on.

The movie is essentiallly made. Most of the money has been spent. There's no point in NOT releasing the movie at this stage of the game, whether it sucks or not.

Again, I'm not saying the movie will or won't be good. I'm simply saying that, sadly, this is yet another non-story thrown at us to make us think there's something more positive than there really is.
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Old August 6 2008, 01:06 AM   #19
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well, it would be interesting to see an unfinished movie, without music, and much of the special effects and extra sound...

... and still call it a hit.
They probably used temp music/sound effects from previous Trek movies or other ones from the Paramount library.
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Old August 6 2008, 12:58 PM   #20
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Pakled prescreeners - "We look for things to make us pleased."
Nice one!
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Old August 6 2008, 01:48 PM   #21
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"We are all very pleased."

Yeah what else are the suits going to say? "Oh it sucked big time!" I don't think so. I mean may indeed end up being a really good movie but I don't think what studio execs are saying right now is really an indication.
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Old August 6 2008, 01:54 PM   #22
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Well I'm not sure why it won't let me edit my post BUT I need to add: Apologies to TJinPgh as you has already posted the same thought, only in a much better way. I have a bad habit of posting before I read all replies.
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Old August 6 2008, 07:46 PM   #23
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well, it would be interesting to see an unfinished movie, without music, and much of the special effects and extra sound...

... and still call it a hit.
Special effects are always going to be good with a budget, unless its a B movie. Plot, acting, and script are what make a movie good, not sfx. Unless its Transformers.
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Old August 6 2008, 08:10 PM   #24
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well, it would be interesting to see an unfinished movie, without music, and much of the special effects and extra sound...

... and still call it a hit.
Special effects are always going to be good with a budget, unless its a B movie. Plot, acting, and script are what make a movie good, not sfx. Unless its Transformers.
That is true, by far the greatest part of Transformers was the sfx.
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Old August 6 2008, 10:10 PM   #25
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Besides the "we are very pleased" thing, which still has it's humorous uses, and will continue to do so if Abrams screws this up, the suits at Paramount aren't going to tell someone of his stature that his film sucks
Depends on the exec. Remember, Abrams' "stature" is essentially contractor.
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Old August 7 2008, 02:29 PM   #26
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Besides the "we are very pleased" thing, which still has it's humorous uses, and will continue to do so if Abrams screws this up, the suits at Paramount aren't going to tell someone of his stature that his film sucks
Depends on the exec. Remember, Abrams' "stature" is essentially contractor.
True. And, it's not as though a studio hasn't decided to go a different direction after a movie was shot before (Superman II, for example).

But, I suspect there are usually reasons for it other than the over all quality of the movie (Superman II, for example).

And, it's not as though most of the executives from Paramount would know a good Star Trek movie from a bad one.
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Old August 8 2008, 02:11 AM   #27
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If the studio were ordering reshoots and/or serious re-editing, we'd know about it by this stage. This is indeed genuine good news.
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Old August 12 2008, 09:44 AM   #28
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Thanks, "number6".
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Old August 18 2008, 08:33 PM   #29
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"We are all very pleased."

Yeah what else are the suits going to say?
Say nothing. These execs are smart enough to know when to shut their mouths. I would think that if the execs were not happy, we'd never hear of it. They'd just go and make changes and avoid talking about it. I do think this is a good sign.
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Old August 20 2008, 01:00 AM   #30
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According to J.J. (quoted in the current issue of TV Guide) only 50 of the 1,000-plus visuals are completed.

If ILM has only completed 50 in four months, I'm not sure how they would have the rest of them done by December, which has been the stated plan on a couple of occasions.

I still think they should take the extra time and really do this right.
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