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Old July 27 2008, 07:41 AM   #1
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Albums bands might've wished they hadn't made.

Kiss The Elder,( Dynasty, Unmasked too I suppose).

Priest Ram it Down. Like the title track though.

Nuge Paralyzed.

Blackfoot Vertical Smiles.

Pink Floyd Final Cut.

Saxon Crusader.

VH 3?
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Old July 27 2008, 09:58 AM   #2
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Deep Purple. Fireball & Stormbringer. Ian Gillan did like Fireball though. I liked a few parts of it, but overall, not.


Stormbringer is another awkward CD in the Deep Purple canon. Some say that for every "great" DP album, there is a poor one that follows it. I don't agree with this formula, though it is the same formula many Trekkers use when discussing their favourite movies. In Rock was followed by Fireball, which some (including many in Deep Purple) felt was substandard. That was followed by the brilliant, immortal Machine Head, which was in turn succeeded by the tired Who Do We Think We Are!


Stryper, every record they did.
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Old July 27 2008, 02:03 PM   #3
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U2--"Zooropa"
Bowie--"Tin Machine" and "Tonight"
The Cure--"The Cure" from 2004
Sinead O'Connor--The big band covers album
REM--"Monster"

Many of these albums aren't a total waste, but they were major disappointments.
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Old July 27 2008, 03:03 PM   #4
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U2--"Zooropa"
Agreed! Terrible album. It doesn't even sound like a fully formed recording, more like outtakes and leftovers.

The Cure--"The Cure" from 2004
Disagreed! I love this album.
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Old July 27 2008, 03:57 PM   #5
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Pink Floyd Final Cut.
I doubt Roger has any regrets about his album. He is most likely very proud of it. Dave just didn't care about it that much as it was mostly a Roger solo album.

Have to say that I absolutely love The Final Cut. The more I listen to it the better it becomes. Unlike most songs it doesn't get dull with repeated listening. The Gunner's Dream is also an absolutely mint to play on the piano when one is feeling down.
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Old July 27 2008, 04:19 PM   #6
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U2--"Zooropa"
Agreed! Terrible album. It doesn't even sound like a fully formed recording, more like outtakes and leftovers.
True! Although I will give Zooropa the benefit of a doubt for the last track with Johnny Cash, The Wanderer.

Now, Pop, on the other hand... *oy*

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Old July 27 2008, 05:49 PM   #7
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Re: Albums bands might've wished they hadn't made.

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REM--"Monster"

Many of these albums aren't a total waste, but they were major disappointments.
I'm not sure you can call Monster -- an album that went quadruple-platinum in the United States and launched many of the band's most well-known songs -- a "major disappointment."

To contribute: Fleetwood Mac should have called it quits after Rumours, The Pogues' Hell's Ditch was pretty terrible, and I don't think anyone will understand what demonic force convinced Garth Brooks (himself a minion of Satan) that recording In the Life of Chris Gaines was anything resembling a "good idea."

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Old July 27 2008, 07:45 PM   #8
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Metallica - St Anger
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Old July 27 2008, 07:47 PM   #9
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How bout Garage Inc? Have mixed feelings about doing a load of covers. Some I like, but a double album of covers? I dunno.

Flush the Fashion Alice Cooper.

Aerosmiths 1st double live album. Recorded & presented like a bootleg, poor sound quality.


Venom's 3rd. At War With Satan. 2 things went wrong there. side 2 was one long song. Bad idea. Chronos said it was his idea, being a big Rush fan. Black metal is short attention span music.
The title didn't go over right. Everyone thought it meant a war against Satan. It meant at war WITH him.
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Old July 27 2008, 07:55 PM   #10
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REM--"Monster"

Many of these albums aren't a total waste, but they were major disappointments.
I'm not sure you can call Monster -- an album that went quadruple-platinum in the United States and launched many of the band's most well-known songs -- a "major disappointment."

To contribute: Fleetwood Mac should have called it quits after Rumours, The Pogues' Hell's Ditch was pretty terrible, and I don't think anyone will understand what demonic force convinced Garth Brooks (himself a minion of Satan) that recording In the Life of Chris Gaines was anything resembling a "good idea."
Fair enough. I guess I should have said it was a major disappointment on a personal level. It was billed as a return to the "Document" sound. It has a few really good tracks, but, to me, it was REM's worst album up to that point by far.
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How bout Garage Inc? Have mixed feelings about doing a load of covers. Some I like, but a double album of covers? I dunno.
It was mainly for hardcore fans so they could get their hands on Garage Days/Garage Days Revisited. Which people were ending up having to import, so Metallica wanted all that available to the fans. I also think they had an interesting choice in new covers, if anything, those choices really showed how much the band had changed over the years.

Their cover of Astronomy is the best one of the new ones IMO.
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Old July 27 2008, 08:03 PM   #12
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Deep Purple. Fireball & Stormbringer. Ian Gillan did like Fireball though. I liked a few parts of it, but overall, not.


Stormbringer is another awkward CD in the Deep Purple canon. Some say that for every "great" DP album, there is a poor one that follows it. I don't agree with this formula, though it is the same formula many Trekkers use when discussing their favourite movies. In Rock was followed by Fireball, which some (including many in Deep Purple) felt was substandard. That was followed by the brilliant, immortal Machine Head, which was in turn succeeded by the tired Who Do We Think We Are!
Stormbringer was uneven, I'll give you that, but some good songs and some really nice singing by Coverdale. The UK version of Fireball had a dead spot with "Demon's Eye", but with that song replaced on the US release by "Strange Kind of Woman" it's quite solid and contains some of my favorite tracks.

Don't understand what your quibble is with Who Do We Think We Are, though; I'd put that right up next to Machine Head for quality. (The radio single "Woman from Tokyo" was the weakest thing about that record.)

The one Purple should really have taken back was Come Taste the Band.


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Stryper, every record they did.
Forming the band in the first place was where they went wrong, I think. Putting albums out only compounded the problem.
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Old July 27 2008, 08:53 PM   #13
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but with that song replaced on the US release by "Strange Kind of Woman" it's quite solid and contains some of my favorite tracks.

Mine didn't have that track. The Mule was kinda interesting with the drum beat. The track Fireball was heavy, but not in league with tracks like Burn or Highway Star.

Anyone's daughter? what was that song doing there.
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but with that song replaced on the US release by "Strange Kind of Woman" it's quite solid and contains some of my favorite tracks.
Mine didn't have that track. The Mule was kinda interesting with the drum beat. The track Fireball was heavy, but not in league with tracks like Burn or Highway Star.

Anyone's daughter? what was that song doing there.
Same sort of thing the Stones' "The Girl with the Faraway Eyes" was doing on Some Girls, or any number of other country-flavored songs were doing on albums by other British bands (several featuring English country-picker Albert Lee.) Elvis, Muddy Waters and Chuck Berry weren't the only things these guys listened to coming up. "Anyone's Daughter" is funnier than most, though.

For the rest of Fireball, "No, No, No", "Fools" and "No One Came" are favorites. The title track isn't a strong example of songwriting, really, but they play the out of it.
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Old July 27 2008, 11:40 PM   #15
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but with that song replaced on the US release by "Strange Kind of Woman" it's quite solid and contains some of my favorite tracks.
Mine didn't have that track. The Mule was kinda interesting with the drum beat. The track Fireball was heavy, but not in league with tracks like Burn or Highway Star.

Anyone's daughter? what was that song doing there.
Same sort of thing the Stones' "The Girl with the Faraway Eyes" was doing on Some Girls, or any number of other country-flavored songs were doing on albums by other British bands (several featuring English country-picker Albert Lee.) Elvis, Muddy Waters and Chuck Berry weren't the only things these guys listened to coming up. "Anyone's Daughter" is funnier than most, though.

For the rest of Fireball, "No, No, No", "Fools" and "No One Came" are favorites. The title track isn't a strong example of songwriting, really, but they play the out of it.


I suppose so. It was semi funny. I understand the record company gave em a VERY short time to record & put it out & Ritchie was pretty non plussed about it. I think accessability is what Fireball isn't. One has to really sit down & groove to it. Ritchie plays like a Cello on No No No with the volume knob. A 70's sort of thing to do, long drawn out soloing. Very boring to the masses of today it would be. I could dig that even at age 16, but many would yawn at it.

Tracks like Burn, Space Truckin, Woman from Tokyo, Highway Star, Smoke o the Water & even Child in Time are much more accessible, ( easy to latch on to with hooks, riffs etc).
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