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Old July 16 2008, 12:38 AM   #16
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Thanks. My only problem is, that does seem to be that whatever happens, whatever changes, it almost always breaks to Skynet's supreme advantage. Heroes must face a challenge, even a supreme, nigh-impossible challenge, in order to have their adventures be worth following. My problem comes when their chances are reduced to such utterly ridiculous levels, their defeat seems inevitable rather than 'a bold twist' or their victory seems like 'Huh?' - in that the arrayed forces against them should logically not have gone down. IMO, the X-books made that mistake with Apocalypse for a while. If Skynet can simply never go down and JD only made worse and wider, it gets harder and harder to care.

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Old July 16 2008, 12:41 AM   #17
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Maybe they will have to giver her a chip containing her later memories and that is the way they stop her.
Or she makes a choice to override her own programming.
I'm not certain if that's possible. In T3 the T-850 was able to override its programming because it wasn't him in the 'driver's seat' so to speak. He was being remotely controlled by the T-X and was able to retake control of his systems long enough to deactivate and reboot. I'm not certain if Cameron would be able to do such a reboot.
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Old July 16 2008, 12:43 AM   #18
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Thanks. My only problem is, that does seem to be that whatever happens, whatever changes, it almost always breaks to Skynet's supreme advantage.
Exactly. Even though Judgment Day is delayed it only will get worse because Skynet will have new technologies to fall back on. In the original continuities - for example - Skynet had a central core in Cheyenne Mountain and a backup center in LA. As of T3 it was on the internet and not in a central location. All of this serves to make Skynet a more deadly threat because it's getting harder and harder to kill.

One of the more interesting storylines had Skynet truly incapable of being defeated because its processors were moved to an orbital satellite.
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Old July 16 2008, 01:19 AM   #19
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In one of the first issues of Tom Strong, he was fighting a silicone life form which was just about indefeasible and replicating to the point it would soon make humanity struggle to breath goodness for bid live.

He gave them Mars.

If we can't live together, there are options other than killing one another.
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Old July 16 2008, 01:40 AM   #20
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Maybe they will have to giver her a chip containing her later memories and that is the way they stop her.
Or she makes a choice to override her own programming.
I'm not certain if that's possible. In T3 the T-850 was able to override its programming because it wasn't him in the 'driver's seat' so to speak. He was being remotely controlled by the T-X and was able to retake control of his systems long enough to deactivate and reboot. I'm not certain if Cameron would be able to do such a reboot.
It wouldn't be possible as she is programmed. Then again, skynet wasn't programmed to wipe out the human race. It went above its programming and started making decisions for itself.
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Old July 16 2008, 01:45 AM   #21
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Or she makes a choice to override her own programming.
I'm not certain if that's possible. In T3 the T-850 was able to override its programming because it wasn't him in the 'driver's seat' so to speak. He was being remotely controlled by the T-X and was able to retake control of his systems long enough to deactivate and reboot. I'm not certain if Cameron would be able to do such a reboot.
It wouldn't be possible as she is programmed. Then again, skynet wasn't programmed to wipe out the human race. It went above its programming and started making decisions for itself.
Besides... the Rivernator is special. Or something.
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Old July 16 2008, 02:12 AM   #22
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Terminators have their higher functions retarded. i was quite surprised to see an extra 5 minutes of Arnie removing his chip so that Sarah and John can let it think like a living being for them. Which in theory would make it a better fighter, but then in theory Anikan was the chosen one.
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Old July 16 2008, 03:59 AM   #23
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According to the trailers, they say that there's "physical damage" to Cameron's chip. So, maybe her programming hasn't reverted to "default mode" but has instead been corrupted in some way.
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Old July 16 2008, 04:53 AM   #24
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I know when I transfer files I have to tell my computer to erase things as they transfer otherwise... Maybe there's a less corrupted version of her still hiding in the traffic computer?
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Old July 16 2008, 05:17 AM   #25
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That explosion must have given Rivernator some serious CRC errors
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Old July 16 2008, 06:17 AM   #26
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Besides... the Rivernator is special. Or something.


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Old July 16 2008, 06:18 AM   #27
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According to the trailers, they say that there's "physical damage" to Cameron's chip. So, maybe her programming hasn't reverted to "default mode" but has instead been corrupted in some way.
That's another possibility. Or, as Cameron said in season one's Dungeon's & Dragons, "Sometimes they just go bad. We don't know why."
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Old July 16 2008, 07:29 AM   #28
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When Cameron goes bad she should rip off her clothes and rip off Sarah's clothes and wrestle with her in some Jell-O.
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Old July 16 2008, 08:05 AM   #29
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^ I second that.
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Old July 17 2008, 03:39 AM   #30
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Thanks. My only problem is, that does seem to be that whatever happens, whatever changes, it almost always breaks to Skynet's supreme advantage.
Exactly. Even though Judgment Day is delayed it only will get worse because Skynet will have new technologies to fall back on. In the original continuities - for example - Skynet had a central core in Cheyenne Mountain and a backup center in LA. As of T3 it was on the internet and not in a central location. All of this serves to make Skynet a more deadly threat because it's getting harder and harder to kill.

One of the more interesting storylines had Skynet truly incapable of being defeated because its processors were moved to an orbital satellite.
Since I can't edit my post I'll reply to it.

The teaser for T4 seems to support your theory too.
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