RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 141,586
Posts: 5,515,331
Members: 25,157
Currently online: 519
Newest member: Lt. Marseille

TrekToday headlines

Two New Starships Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Dec 26

Captain Kirk’s Boldest Missions
By: T'Bonz on Dec 25

Trek Paper Clips
By: T'Bonz on Dec 24

Sargent Passes
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

QMx Trek Insignia Badges
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

And The New Director Of Star Trek 3 Is…
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

TV Alert: Pine On Tonight Show
By: T'Bonz on Dec 22

Retro Review: The Emperor’s New Cloak
By: Michelle on Dec 20

Star Trek Opera
By: T'Bonz on Dec 19

New Abrams Project
By: T'Bonz on Dec 18


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy

Science Fiction & Fantasy Farscape, Babylon 5, Star Wars, Firefly, vampires, genre books and film.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 2 2008, 02:02 PM   #1
Crewman47
Commodore
 
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

Need some help trying to work something out here while I was watching ALiens the other night. Anyway things we do know about LV-426 is that it was first discovered in Alien by the crew of Nostromo, we find the Derelict with alien eggs and a dead, fossilised different Alien. Nostromo leaves, Ripley destroys it and she left sleeping in stasis for the next 57 years. During that time 30 odd years go by and LV-426 is colonised and partially terraformed. The colony consisting of around 158 people live an okay life until 20 years later where contact with them is lost as at least one person (that us the viewers know of) has been impregnated with an alien embryo. Anyway by the time the Marines, along with Ripley arrive all but one of the colonists have been either killed or captured and cocooned for impregantion and we now have over a hundred adult sized Aliens.

What I'm trying to figure out is how do the colonists all manage to get themselves captured so easily and in so quick a time, (I think maybe a span of a few weeks to a month I guess) so that the Aliens can build there numbers. Was each colonist taken one at a time by each newly devloped Alien or did the colonists do something stupid to get themselve caught short or something?

Any thoughts?
Crewman47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 02:16 PM   #2
The Festivus Awakens
Airing Grievouses
 
The Festivus Awakens's Avatar
 
Location: Locutus of Bored
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

I don't see how they did any better or worse than the Nostromo crew who was killed off in a couple days by one alien or the Colonial Marines who lasted a couple of days against a hundred or more aliens but with superior weaponry.

They kept barricading themselves behind blast doors and debris until the aliens broke through, in which case the survivors from that defense who hadn't been captured for impregnation would fall back to another inner line of defenses which would get destroyed and so on and so forth until like the Marines they were trapped in a single area and the aliens swarmed them from above and below.

Every time they killed an alien trying to penetrate their barriers they would inadvertently compromise the barrier itself by spraying acid everywhere.
__________________
'First Contact' is the tale of a man who just wants to cash in on his creation so he can get wasted on an island full of naked women, but his fans keep insisting that he's a saintly visionary who has profoundly altered the world. AKA - 'I Don't Want to be a Statue: The Gene Roddenberry Story.'
The Festivus Awakens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 02:51 PM   #3
Forbin
Admiral
 
Forbin's Avatar
 
Location: I said out, dammit!
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

Crewman47 wrote: View Post
Ripley destroys it and she left sleeping in stasis for the next 57 years. During that time 30 odd years go by ...
I think I see your trouble figuring a timeline.



Forbin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 03:07 PM   #4
Nedersong
Captain
 
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

The aliens reproduce really quickly and could easily overwhelm by pure numbers.

Plus, the crew of the Nostromo were not highly trained soldiers, and neither were the colonists. And you saw what happened to the soldiers.
Nedersong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 03:07 PM   #5
Crewman47
Commodore
 
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

I meant that after the Nostromo leaves we then go through the movie and Ripley destroys the Nostromo, not the Planet. Sorry for the way I worded it.
Crewman47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 03:39 PM   #6
Starkers
Admiral
 
Starkers's Avatar
 
Location: Behind enemy lines
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

Nedersong wrote: View Post
The aliens reproduce really quickly and could easily overwhelm by pure numbers.

Plus, the crew of the Nostromo were not highly trained soldiers, and neither were the colonists. And you saw what happened to the soldiers.
Yeah but these were soldiers who'd lost most of their weapons and equiptment. If they'd retained the APC and their ammo the chances are that the marines could have wiped the floor with the aliens.
Starkers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 03:53 PM   #7
Deckerd
Fleet Arse
 
Deckerd's Avatar
 
Location: the Frozen Wastes
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

Starkers wrote: View Post
Nedersong wrote: View Post
The aliens reproduce really quickly and could easily overwhelm by pure numbers.

Plus, the crew of the Nostromo were not highly trained soldiers, and neither were the colonists. And you saw what happened to the soldiers.
Yeah but these were soldiers who'd lost most of their weapons and equiptment. If they'd retained the APC and their ammo the chances are that the marines could have wiped the floor with the aliens.
Although you have to admit all of them being sent straight into the rat's nest was a teensy tactical error.
__________________
They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.
Deckerd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 04:27 PM   #8
Starkers
Admiral
 
Starkers's Avatar
 
Location: Behind enemy lines
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

Deckerd wrote: View Post
Starkers wrote: View Post
Nedersong wrote: View Post
The aliens reproduce really quickly and could easily overwhelm by pure numbers.

Plus, the crew of the Nostromo were not highly trained soldiers, and neither were the colonists. And you saw what happened to the soldiers.
Yeah but these were soldiers who'd lost most of their weapons and equiptment. If they'd retained the APC and their ammo the chances are that the marines could have wiped the floor with the aliens.
Although you have to admit all of them being sent straight into the rat's nest was a teensy tactical error.
That's gormless Gorman for you! lions led by a donkey!
Starkers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 04:36 PM   #9
Ethros
Vice Admiral
 
Ethros's Avatar
 
Location: 1123 6536 5321
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

^ He always was an asshole
Ethros is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 04:55 PM   #10
Tulin
Vice Admiral
 
Location: With the most wonderful man in the world!
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

BANG!!!!!!
Tulin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 06:54 PM   #11
Booked_moss
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

Deckerd wrote: View Post
Starkers wrote: View Post
Nedersong wrote: View Post
The aliens reproduce really quickly and could easily overwhelm by pure numbers.

Plus, the crew of the Nostromo were not highly trained soldiers, and neither were the colonists. And you saw what happened to the soldiers.
Yeah but these were soldiers who'd lost most of their weapons and equiptment. If they'd retained the APC and their ammo the chances are that the marines could have wiped the floor with the aliens.
Although you have to admit all of them being sent straight into the rat's nest was a teensy tactical error.
Seems they have lost the concept of 'air strike' in the future. But then again a movie with the following plot line would not do too well:

"after 2 days of airstrikes we have sent the soldiers in to see if theres anything left. There are little signs of life left. The soldiers took a few DNA samples from anything that looked like it once came from something alive. We are now on our way home."
The end.

I think it might have bombed at the box office.

Last edited by Booked_moss; September 2 2008 at 06:56 PM. Reason: Changed marines to 'soldiers'. My bad.
Booked_moss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 07:39 PM   #12
MarianLH
Fleet Captain
 
MarianLH's Avatar
 
Location: Lower decks
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

Carpet bombing is usually not the best way to carry out a rescue mission. Once they knew the colonists were dead, an air strike--or rather, an orbital strike--was exactly what they planned to do.


Marian
__________________
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
--Bertrand Russell

Half of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.
--Jim McCarthy.

Last edited by MarianLH; September 2 2008 at 09:28 PM.
MarianLH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 2 2008, 07:59 PM   #13
Turd Ferguson
Commodore
 
Turd Ferguson's Avatar
 
Location: Kentucky
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

MarianLH wrote: View Post
Carpet bombing is usually not the best way to carry out a rescue mission.


Marian
That and Carter Burke seemed hellbent on not damaging that very expensive piece of Company property
__________________
"Brace yourself. The area of penetration will no doubt be sensitive." - Mr. Spock, The Immunity Syndrome
Turd Ferguson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2008, 01:41 PM   #14
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
 
Location: Missile Command
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

Carter Burke is amazing...really. That anyone could witness such a horror and still be thinking of the bottom line. Was Haliburton part of Weyland-Yutani?
MeanJoePhaser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2008, 03:59 PM   #15
nx1701g
Admiral
 
nx1701g's Avatar
 
Location: Aboard the Executor...
Re: Alien/Aliens - LV-426 timeline

^ There have been plenty of businesses that have profited by misery. Carter Burke - according to Cameron - was supposed to represent those businessmen from the 80s who would kill their best friends if it meant improving the bottom line.
__________________
Not Dead Yet.
nx1701g is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:49 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.