Stargate Continuum - Grading and Discussion - Page 17

Harvey · August 28 2008, 04:15 PM

chrinFinity wrote:

Wellll, not exactly. Selmak died from Jacob's old age / disease. Selmak had deliberately stayed in Jacob far past the point of diminishing returns when it comes to restoring the host's body to good health, because he had important work that needed doing which prevented him from investing his efforts finding a new host. Selmak and Jacob both knew that Selmak needed a new host cuz Jacob was dying, but they agreed to ignore this fact in favour of finishing their work... effectively sacrificing Selmak in the process. When it finally came to light, it was too late, as Selmak no longer had enough strength to change hosts.

I must be misremembering the order of things in Reckoning/Threads. I thought for sure that it was Selmak who was dying, but Jacob kept Selmak around long enough for him to finish his work defeating the Replicators/Go'a'uld.

EDIT: Wikipedia, the cardinal source of all knowledge(tm), confirms my memory:

In "Threads", Jacob reveals that Selmak is dying of old age after living for 2,000 years. During the events of "Reckoning", Jacob insists that Selmak hold on so as to complete their calibration of the Dakara superweapon to defeat the Replicators. As a result of this effort, Selmak slips into a coma and can no longer exert the necessary will to save Jacob's life when he dies. Jacob tells Samantha of his intention to die with Selmak, and that he considers his years spent with him as a gift. Jacob passes away shortly after Selmak in the SGC.

Hermiod · August 28 2008, 05:19 PM

kitkat wrote:

Hermiod wrote:

^A fanboy's love for Carter is a quiet love. It's not noisy love like those fangirls and Flanigan.

Exactly what are you implying?

Oh yeah.....Flanigan.

Yeah, 'tis a quiet love.... not.

kitkat · August 28 2008, 09:56 PM

Hermiod wrote:

kitkat wrote:

Hermiod wrote:

^A fanboy's love for Carter is a quiet love. It's not noisy love like those fangirls and Flanigan.

Exactly what are you implying?

Oh yeah.....Flanigan.

Yeah, 'tis a quiet love.... not.

I'm quiet....just....slobbery.

RoJoHen · August 28 2008, 10:03 PM

Hirogen Alpha wrote:

chrinFinity wrote:

Wellll, not exactly. Selmak died from Jacob's old age / disease. Selmak had deliberately stayed in Jacob far past the point of diminishing returns when it comes to restoring the host's body to good health, because he had important work that needed doing which prevented him from investing his efforts finding a new host. Selmak and Jacob both knew that Selmak needed a new host cuz Jacob was dying, but they agreed to ignore this fact in favour of finishing their work... effectively sacrificing Selmak in the process. When it finally came to light, it was too late, as Selmak no longer had enough strength to change hosts.

I must be misremembering the order of things in Reckoning/Threads. I thought for sure that it was Selmak who was dying, but Jacob kept Selmak around long enough for him to finish his work defeating the Replicators/Go'a'uld.

EDIT: Wikipedia, the cardinal source of all knowledge(tm), confirms my memory:

In "Threads", Jacob reveals that Selmak is dying of old age after living for 2,000 years. During the events of "Reckoning", Jacob insists that Selmak hold on so as to complete their calibration of the Dakara superweapon to defeat the Replicators. As a result of this effort, Selmak slips into a coma and can no longer exert the necessary will to save Jacob's life when he dies. Jacob tells Samantha of his intention to die with Selmak, and that he considers his years spent with him as a gift. Jacob passes away shortly after Selmak in the SGC.

Yeah, Selmak was dying. He could have left Jacob weeks earlier and saved Jacob's life, but he stuck around to help with the work. By that time, it was too late for Selmak to leave Jacob, and so they both died.

Hermiod · August 29 2008, 07:05 AM

kitkat wrote:

I'm quiet....just....slobbery.

Dripping noises are extremely annoying.

archeryguy1701 · August 29 2008, 08:35 AM

RoJoHen wrote:

Hirogen Alpha wrote:

chrinFinity wrote:

Wellll, not exactly. Selmak died from Jacob's old age / disease. Selmak had deliberately stayed in Jacob far past the point of diminishing returns when it comes to restoring the host's body to good health, because he had important work that needed doing which prevented him from investing his efforts finding a new host. Selmak and Jacob both knew that Selmak needed a new host cuz Jacob was dying, but they agreed to ignore this fact in favour of finishing their work... effectively sacrificing Selmak in the process. When it finally came to light, it was too late, as Selmak no longer had enough strength to change hosts.

I must be misremembering the order of things in Reckoning/Threads. I thought for sure that it was Selmak who was dying, but Jacob kept Selmak around long enough for him to finish his work defeating the Replicators/Go'a'uld.

EDIT: Wikipedia, the cardinal source of all knowledge(tm), confirms my memory:

In "Threads", Jacob reveals that Selmak is dying of old age after living for 2,000 years. During the events of "Reckoning", Jacob insists that Selmak hold on so as to complete their calibration of the Dakara superweapon to defeat the Replicators. As a result of this effort, Selmak slips into a coma and can no longer exert the necessary will to save Jacob's life when he dies. Jacob tells Samantha of his intention to die with Selmak, and that he considers his years spent with him as a gift. Jacob passes away shortly after Selmak in the SGC.

Yeah, Selmak was dying. He could have left Jacob weeks earlier and saved Jacob's life, but he stuck around to help with the work. By that time, it was too late for Selmak to leave Jacob, and so they both died.

Exactly. The reason Jacob is dead is because the symbiote died inside of him and released the toxins.

chrinFinity · August 29 2008, 09:28 PM

oops - my bad, sorry

DBR · September 5 2008, 06:13 PM

Weak.

I am sick of the Goul'd (most especially Baal), tired of time travel (which isn't Stargate's fault) and was just hoping for something more...

auntiehill · September 5 2008, 06:20 PM

I thought it was OK, but truth be told, I liked Ark of Truth better. Reset Button episodes always have that "so what?" quality to them that just leave me feeling very....unaffected.

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August 29 2008, 09:28 PM	#247
chrinFinity Commander Location: Scmocation	Re: Stargate Continuum - Grading and Discussion oops - my bad, sorry __________________ i hate everything

September 5 2008, 06:13 PM	#248
DBR Vice Admiral Location: Yraglac, Atrebla	Re: Stargate Continuum - Grading and Discussion Weak. I am sick of the Goul'd (most especially Baal), tired of time travel (which isn't Stargate's fault) and was just hoping for something more... __________________ Did you ever wonder if the person in the puddle is real, and you're just a reflection of him?

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auntiehill Fleet Admiral Location: av by Chemahkuu	Re: Stargate Continuum - Grading and Discussion I thought it was OK, but truth be told, I liked Ark of Truth better. Reset Button episodes always have that "so what?" quality to them that just leave me feeling very....unaffected. __________________ “Throughout history, every mystery ever solved has turned out to be NOT. MAGIC.” --Tim Minchin

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