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Old March 16 2015, 04:03 AM   #1
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STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

I've been gathering a collection of 1:2400 Star Trek kits and now I'm building them. I figured I'd begin with the beginning, the original Enterprise. This will be a build thread where I'll put up all the models I put together. My intent is to build all the ships that appear in the show in 1:2400 scale. Some I'll have to scratchbuild, but I'm starting with the kits.

Now, anyone who's build the 1:2400 TOS E knows it's an awful kit. Well, if you want it to be the ship in the show. It's actually a fair representation of the 18" AMT model. But I wanted to model the ship from the show. First I carved off the cartoony window squares all over the secondary hull. Then I made room for a styrene tube to accept a 1/8" acrylic rod as a stand. Then I carved around the shuttlebay doors and made a ....hood? ...awning? I don't know what the official name of the roof over the doors would be called, but I made it out of sheet styrene and filed it down to blend it with the rest of the hull. I filed the recesses into the hull at the 3:00, 6:00 and 9:00 positions. I filed down the interconnecting dorsal to match the contours of the 11' model.

On the saucer, I filed down the shape of the "B-C" deck area to match the 11' model. Then I added strips of styrene around the edge of the saucer and then spent hours filing it the match the angle and sharpness of the 11' model. The undercut in the saucer had the wide flat outer edge of the 18" AMT kit, so I took a curved blade and scraped out the plastic to closer match the 11' model.

I also made a couple little changes to the nacelles.

It's about 90% complete. I think I'm gonna make my own sensor/deflector dish as the kit's looks like a weird salad bowl or something. Also, the Impulse deck area, while not terrible on the kit, got wiped out while I was rebuilding the saucer edge, so I'll have to scratchbuild that area also. Overall, I think it's coming together to match the 11' model a bit more closely. I figured I'd share it at this point, before I wrap it up and start painting.






To fill file marks and scratches, I used mostly CA and flat white spray paint. Also a bit of Squadron Green on the saucer.

Well, more to come.

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Old March 16 2015, 04:12 AM   #2
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

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Old March 17 2015, 02:17 AM   #3
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

Thanks, Kaiser!

I made a new scanner/deflector dish.



In my first post, you can see that I got carried away with sanding the nacelles and softened the edge of the aft cowlings. It's been bugging me, so I'm going to fix them tonight.

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UPDATE

Got the nacelle ends done.



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Old March 17 2015, 02:29 PM   #4
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

Very nice work, are you sure it is 1/2400 though? I haven't heard of any kits made in that scale. R2 has re-released the 1/2500 line of kits.

What did you use for the ball at the end of the nacelle? Looks amazing!
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Old March 17 2015, 03:10 PM   #5
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

Thanks, Roguewolf!

I remember back in the day that these were being called 1:2400. And now they are being marketed as 1:2500. What gives? The assembled model is 4.75 inches long. A 947 foot Enterprise would be 11,364 inches long. 11364/4.75=2392.421....or closer to 1:2400 than 1:2500. So, that's why I'm going with that number. If it is indeed 1:2500, then then Enterprise would be about 989 and a half feet long. For my money, that's the weird number. To go the other way, a 947 foot ship at 1:2500 scale ought to be 4.5 inches long. That extra quarter inch on the kit makes it definitely 1:2400.

To make the aft nacelle ball, I chucked an inch or so of the kit's sprue into a battery powered hand drill and used it as an improvised lathe to file/sand it to a hemisphere. Then I sawed it off and drilled a shallow hole in the end cap and CAed the hemisphere in place.

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Old March 18 2015, 04:30 AM   #6
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

They've always been 1/2500th scale (ish). They were never stunningly accurate though - so you're correct to claim it's closer to 1/2400th.
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Old March 18 2015, 07:24 AM   #7
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I finished the impulse hardware. Also, I added formation lights (bottom ones too). I think this more-or-less finishes the sub-assemblies. I think I might paint them before final assembly, but I haven't decided.



Painting this weekend. Maybe sooner, but I doubt it.

Thanks for looking!

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Old March 19 2015, 11:47 PM   #8
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

Looking good.

I always paint my stuff after assembly... I usually end up messing up the individual parts while I'm putting them together, and have to repaint anyway.

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Old March 20 2015, 02:01 AM   #9
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

Thanks, Ricky.

I normally do also, but I thought for this one, being so small, it might be easier to have the areas be more accessible.

Anyhow, I got around to spraying a base color. I used Tamiya TS-5 Light Blue (Luftwaffe). I think I read somewhere (maybe something posted by Shaw?) that it's a fair match to the original color. I think the original was a bit greener, but the TS-5 does look pretty darn good to my eye.




If all goes well, I'll start the detail painting Sunday.

Thanks for looking!

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Old March 20 2015, 12:51 PM   #10
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

There is a Tamiya Grey acrylic paint that is said to be pretty darn close right out of the jar. The actual paint # is: Tamiya J.N. Grey 81312 XF-12. The fine folks over at R2 Models have picked it as the color for their 1/350th. TOS kit, lightened with white by 10%. As with anything, go with what YOU like best. You're going to be looking at it for some time and have to be happy with the result.

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Old March 20 2015, 03:49 PM   #11
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There is a Tamiya Grey acrylic paint that is said to be pretty darn close right out of the jar. The actual paint # is: Tamiya J.N. Grey 81312 XF-12. The fine folks over at R2 Models have picked it as the color for their 1/350th. TOS kit, lightened with white by 10%. As with anything, go with what YOU like best. You're going to be looking at it for some time and have to be happy with the result.

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For now, though, I'm stuck with whatever I can get in a rattlecan.

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Old March 21 2015, 07:07 AM   #12
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Re: STAR TREK in 1:2400 scale

I had a little extra time today, but I didn't quite feel like painting. So, instead I started one of the simpler scratchbuilds.



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Old March 23 2015, 02:08 PM   #13
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"Started". So, Borg or First Federation?
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^^My thoughts exactly. Either one would be great.
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Old March 23 2015, 03:18 PM   #15
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"Started". So, Borg or First Federation?
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^^My thoughts exactly. Either one would be great.
Hey, guys, thanks for looking! I'm starting with just TOS for now, so, First Federation. I have a notion to do TNG as well, but that will come later.

I had planed to paint these yesterday, but I unexpectedly spent all weekend hanging out with family in Washington, so when I got home I did manage to get started painting the warp nacelles, but not enough progress to warrant pictures yet. I'll post once it's all ready for final assembly.

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