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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old July 14 2008, 06:38 PM   #46
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Re: If STNG were remastered...

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That will eliminate any chance of it airing in a few years when networks go solely HD.
Networks will do no such thing.

They're going all DIGITAL next year. But not all digital is HD.
Did I say they would go all HD next year? No. I'm aware what the digital conversion entails...thanks.

Sometime in the not-to-distant-future, most networks will limit themselves to HD only programming.
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Old July 14 2008, 07:37 PM   #47
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All of those are awesome. Redo them and in ten years that will seem laughable, too. What's the point? All this "improving" reminds me of the scene from Batman(1989)where the Joker is vandalizing all the paintings in the art museum.
I never suggested redoing them. I'm merely pointing out that the TNG graphics aren't nearly as laughable as some of the others.
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Old July 14 2008, 10:10 PM   #48
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Re: If STNG were remastered...

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That will eliminate any chance of it airing in a few years when networks go solely HD.
Networks will do no such thing.

They're going all DIGITAL next year. But not all digital is HD.
Did I say they would go all HD next year? No. I'm aware what the digital conversion entails...thanks.

Sometime in the not-to-distant-future, most networks will limit themselves to HD only programming.

In that case they'd have a contingency for non-HD programs. They're not going to wipe away 60 years of television because it's old and not in HD!
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Old July 15 2008, 01:20 AM   #49
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Re: If STNG were remastered...

A vast majority of shows ever produced aren't shown, and if they are...most of those are on channels dedicated towards "classic" programming, or they're in syndication (such as TNG).

However, if a channel 10 years from now has an option of airing a nitchy HD sci-fi show or a slightly less-nitchy SD show from at that point 30 years ago...guess what they'll pick.
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Old July 15 2008, 03:05 PM   #50
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Re: If STNG were remastered...

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Networks will do no such thing.

They're going all DIGITAL next year. But not all digital is HD.
Did I say they would go all HD next year? No. I'm aware what the digital conversion entails...thanks.

Sometime in the not-to-distant-future, most networks will limit themselves to HD only programming.

In that case they'd have a contingency for non-HD programs. They're not going to wipe away 60 years of television because it's old and not in HD!
They just might. Didn't you know? Everything old is garbage. Only new stuff is good now.
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Old July 15 2008, 03:12 PM   #51
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Re: If STNG were remastered...

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Did I say they would go all HD next year? No. I'm aware what the digital conversion entails...thanks.

Sometime in the not-to-distant-future, most networks will limit themselves to HD only programming.

In that case they'd have a contingency for non-HD programs. They're not going to wipe away 60 years of television because it's old and not in HD!
They just might. Didn't you know? Everything old is garbage. Only new stuff is good now.
Says who?
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Old July 15 2008, 05:35 PM   #52
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In that case they'd have a contingency for non-HD programs. They're not going to wipe away 60 years of television because it's old and not in HD!
They just might. Didn't you know? Everything old is garbage. Only new stuff is good now.
Says who?
That seems to be the general concensus with audiences today. However, probably 70% of the stuff I watch on TV is old, so I guess I'm SOL!
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Old July 16 2008, 07:47 PM   #53
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Re: If STNG were remastered...

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In that case they'd have a contingency for non-HD programs. They're not going to wipe away 60 years of television because it's old and not in HD!
They just might. Didn't you know? Everything old is garbage. Only new stuff is good now.
Says who?
The people who program most American television networks. We even had a cable network dedicated to classic television. Good B&W stuff, classic early color stuff. But now it's pretty much just Full House, Fresh Prince of Bel Aire, and Home Improvement.

They program this way because the audience demands it through ratings. If older programming worked, it would still be aired. If TNG worked, it wouldn't have been shipped to god knows how may cable channels of the past few years.

People like new things.
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Old July 22 2008, 04:45 PM   #54
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See now, that is low resolution and also shoehorning a rectangular image into a round one. STNG's LCARs screen are either backprojected displays or higher res graphics superimposed onto the screen, they do not look as dated because they are fairly crisp images.



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Old July 22 2008, 06:25 PM   #55
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Maybe they can put a proper uniform on troi.
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Old July 25 2008, 08:27 PM   #56
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And cover up that cleavage? What on earth would you want to do a thing like that for?
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Old August 18 2008, 05:50 PM   #57
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Just to clear things up... I never said everything old is garbage, I am not in the "everything needs to be updated" camp. I simply hate those one color screens on the flagship of the Federation in the 24th century. That's all, that's the only change I'd like to see, to add more color to those one color green screens.
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Old August 19 2008, 04:18 AM   #58
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Would you prefer to see a mix of traditional mattes paintings with CGI, or all-cgi ones like Enterprise was. It occurred to me after looking at the latest matte from TOS-R that some of the good quality mattes in STNG could also be redone in 3D fashion. There really would be no edict that they would have to make them look like FX of the day. A CGI matte would not be too far off.

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I say leave TNG alone. It's good enough as it is, we had the effects to make the show good. For TOS it was understandable, because even though effects were ok for its time, it still wasn't the same as we have now.
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Old August 19 2008, 08:13 AM   #59
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Re: If STNG were remastered...

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Would you prefer to see a mix of traditional mattes paintings with CGI, or all-cgi ones like Enterprise was. It occurred to me after looking at the latest matte from TOS-R that some of the good quality mattes in STNG could also be redone in 3D fashion. There really would be no edict that they would have to make them look like FX of the day. A CGI matte would not be too far off.

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I say leave TNG alone. It's good enough as it is, we had the effects to make the show good. For TOS it was understandable, because even though effects were ok for its time, it still wasn't the same as we have now.
Maybe for the latter seasons of the show, but you can't seriously say that Seasons 1-2 of TNG had anything like decent FX. But then, the FX weren't the only thing shaky about those early episodes... the spandex uniforms and the overly loud synth soundtrack didn't help matters much... Once you get later on, with better FX, the uniform upgrade and more reliance an actual orchestral soundtrack, things improved greatly...

Of course, remastering would only address a few of those 'dated' aspects of the show, but, given how fuzzy and aged I've noticed the syndicated episodes looking on my non-HD cable outlet, it would appear that Remastered TOS totally spanks TNG in the visual department. Personally, I wouldn't mind an FX overhaul, especially for everything before and inclusive of 'The Best of Both Worlds', but even a simple, really thorough digital cleanup on par with what the TOS master tapes got for their remastering would be greatly appreciated...
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Old August 19 2008, 09:52 AM   #60
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Maybe for the latter seasons of the show, but you can't seriously say that Seasons 1-2 of TNG had anything like decent FX.
Not agreeing fully here, there ware some verry bad stock shots reused in S2, but look at the sourcer slicing the borg did in Q Who, or the effects in Peak Performence. The effect where few but not bad at all.
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