Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers - Page 21

ST-One · January 11 2010, 05:49 PM

Vektor wrote:

Okay, without further ado, here is the first test animation for the nacelle domes:

Engine Powerup Test 01

This is a WMV file that everyone should be able to play, but let me know if there are problems and I'll try a different format.

It looks really nice

How does it look from the side?

AnyStar · January 11 2010, 06:53 PM

while i'm very impressed, it does look great. alone it just seems too "busy" for a Trek craft, maybe once its seen in full context you'll win me over though!

Albertese · January 12 2010, 02:48 AM

I don't suppose you could convert it to quicktime? My mac doesn't like WMV.

--Alex

deg3D · January 12 2010, 02:59 AM

Albertese wrote:

I don't suppose you could convert it to quicktime? My mac doesn't like WMV.

--Alex

Install this, Alex: Flip4Mac

Fix ya right up.

deg

Wingsley · January 12 2010, 05:53 AM

^ Amen. No modern Macintosh should be without it!

Santaman · January 12 2010, 08:46 PM

Nice nacelle dome effect, quite interesting.

BK613 · January 12 2010, 11:22 PM

AudioBridge wrote:

Vektor wrote:

Okay, without further ado, here is the first test animation for the nacelle domes:

Engine Powerup Test 01

This is a WMV file that everyone should be able to play, but let me know if there are problems and I'll try a different format.

I see what you're going for and it works.

Very nice. I echo the suggestion that the blades should spin towards the ship. I'll also add two things: the glowing elements behind the blades need to get brighter and be less pink.

Agree with the spinning suggestion with this addition: one should turn CW and the other CCW (since presumably the engines themselves are mirrors of each other?).

Tosk wrote:

I love this thread. That is all.

QFT

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How you haven't been snatched up by some effects house by now is beyond me: Simply amazing stuff!

I-Am-Zim · January 26 2010, 04:18 PM

Vektor wrote:

One last quickie for tonight. Enterprise at sublight with warp engines idling:

Try to picture this with the blades rotating but just barely. As the ship prepares to go to warp, the internal glow intensifies and the blades begin to spin more rapidly. At full power, the domes luminesce from the contained energy and then BOOM! She's gone.

I have a pretty good idea of exactly what I want that effect to look like. Just have to find the time to actually create it.

God I love this ship! Vektor, you and Deg3D are my favorites! Your take on the big E is awesome. As far as detail, it's the most intricate of the re-imagined Enterprises I've seen. Ryan Church should take pointers from you guys on how to design an Enterprise. Awesome stuff!!!!!

largo · January 26 2010, 05:35 PM

while i agree with the sentiment, it should be noted that ryan church doesn't get a few years to build and polish work for the screen. production schedules are relatively unforgiving.

ncc-1017-e · January 26 2010, 07:02 PM

^ you know I am no 3d modeler but if I am not mistaken Church and the folks on Star trek had over 2 years to work on that film. So that is plenty of time. I think the detail and texture on the jjprise is really good but the design, well they missed the boat. i don't think they were rushed i just think they were uneducated about the look of Trek when it comes to the Enterprise. Vektors work is fantastic. If I were in charge of a star trek film I would hire him and Deg3D to team up to design my Enterprise. That would be the ultimate!

AnyStar · January 26 2010, 07:08 PM

^ i agree: they did make what they had look beautifull, but i dont think it was any "uneducation". it was just a poor choice by the powers that be on the design, they crafted what they were told to make, and in the end its not their fault that it was designed poorly.

3D Master · January 26 2010, 09:54 PM

Ryan Church's original design:

http://www.ryanchurch.com/images/sta...StarTrek11.htm

Although the proportions are still all wrong, still looking misshapen, at least it looks like a singular design made by a single design/engineering team - not like they grabbed different parts from different ships in different eras, slapped and welded them together and hoped for the best, as the ship was in the film.

ncc-1017-e · January 26 2010, 11:24 PM

AnyStar wrote:

^ i agree: they did make what they had look beautifull, but i dont think it was any "uneducation". it was just a poor choice by the powers that be on the design, they crafted what they were told to make, and in the end its not their fault that it was designed poorly.

Yea thats a pretty good assessment. TPTB did not do there homework! I do like Ryan Church's concept art for the Enterprise.

Vektor · January 27 2010, 12:23 AM

Guys, I appreciate the sentiment but it's just plain silly to compare my work with that of Ryan Church in any way that comes out with me on top. When they decide to hire me instead of him to work on the next Star Trek movie, then I will entertain such notions, but I ain't gonna hold my breath.

Look, as I've said on other occasions, there are aspects of Church's Enterprise redesign that I don't much care for, but I think it works within the overall context of the film's "sleek and stylish" motif. I see no reason to assume that a lack of talent, education or respect for the source material was to blame for the new design, they simply chose to do it differently than I would have, and I can live with that just fine.

3D Master · January 27 2010, 12:58 AM

There's nothing sleek or stylish about Church's Enterprise re-design. Quite the contrary. It's a misshapen turd that was squeezed from a constipated anus.

January 11 2010, 06:53 PM	#302
AnyStar Captain Location: Orbiting Planet Plastic	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers while i'm very impressed, it does look great. alone it just seems too "busy" for a Trek craft, maybe once its seen in full context you'll win me over though! __________________ Dear Internets...

January 12 2010, 02:48 AM	#303
Albertese Fleet Captain Location: Portland, OR	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers I don't suppose you could convert it to quicktime? My mac doesn't like WMV. --Alex

January 12 2010, 05:53 AM	#305
Wingsley Commodore Location: Wingsley	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers ^ Amen. No modern Macintosh should be without it! __________________ "The way that you wander is the way that you choose. / The day that you tarry is the day that you lose. / Sunshine or thunder, a man will always wonder / Where the fair wind blows ..." -- Lyrics, Jeremiah Johnson's theme.

January 12 2010, 08:46 PM	#306
Santaman Rear Admiral Location: A little while in the past.	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers Nice nacelle dome effect, quite interesting. __________________ "Sword is personal, brings slicing to a man, you getta that personal feedback, nuclear weapons?.. Meh, goes off big bang and you don't get any feeling.."

January 26 2010, 05:35 PM	#309
largo Fleet Captain	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers while i agree with the sentiment, it should be noted that ryan church doesn't get a few years to build and polish work for the screen. production schedules are relatively unforgiving. __________________ SIG 1701-A

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January 26 2010, 07:02 PM	#310
ncc-1017-e Captain Location: atlanta georgia unitedstates	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers ^ you know I am no 3d modeler but if I am not mistaken Church and the folks on Star trek had over 2 years to work on that film. So that is plenty of time. I think the detail and texture on the jjprise is really good but the design, well they missed the boat. i don't think they were rushed i just think they were uneducated about the look of Trek when it comes to the Enterprise. Vektors work is fantastic. If I were in charge of a star trek film I would hire him and Deg3D to team up to design my Enterprise. That would be the ultimate! __________________ Jeff Thorn

January 26 2010, 07:08 PM	#311
AnyStar Captain Location: Orbiting Planet Plastic	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers ^ i agree: they did make what they had look beautifull, but i dont think it was any "uneducation". it was just a poor choice by the powers that be on the design, they crafted what they were told to make, and in the end its not their fault that it was designed poorly. __________________ Dear Internets...

January 26 2010, 09:54 PM	#312
3D Master Rear Admiral	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers Ryan Church's original design: http://www.ryanchurch.com/images/sta...StarTrek11.htm Although the proportions are still all wrong, still looking misshapen, at least it looks like a singular design made by a single design/engineering team - not like they grabbed different parts from different ships in different eras, slapped and welded them together and hoped for the best, as the ship was in the film.

January 27 2010, 12:23 AM	#314
Vektor Rear Admiral Location: Spokane, WA, USA	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers Guys, I appreciate the sentiment but it's just plain silly to compare my work with that of Ryan Church in any way that comes out with me on top. When they decide to hire me instead of him to work on the next Star Trek movie, then I will entertain such notions, but I ain't gonna hold my breath. Look, as I've said on other occasions, there are aspects of Church's Enterprise redesign that I don't much care for, but I think it works within the overall context of the film's "sleek and stylish" motif. I see no reason to assume that a lack of talent, education or respect for the source material was to blame for the new design, they simply chose to do it differently than I would have, and I can live with that just fine. __________________ www.vektorvisual.com

January 27 2010, 12:58 AM	#315
3D Master Rear Admiral	Re: Modified TOS Ent - Wallpapers There's nothing sleek or stylish about Church's Enterprise re-design. Quite the contrary. It's a misshapen turd that was squeezed from a constipated anus.