Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions - Page 13

GSchnitzer · July 30 2009, 03:01 AM

For what it's worth, Franz Joseph Schnaubelt's Star Fleet Technical Manual discusses bearings and headings and has a system that instead of having 360 degrees in a circle has 400 "divisions." (See Technical Order TO:02:06:10.) It also has "centidivisions" and "millidivisions" instead of minutes and seconds. So at least the old Technical Manual would seem to contemplate a heading of something like "375 mark 382." (Schnaubelt uses a small superscript "D" instead of the regular degree symbol of a little superscript circle.) Of course even this "400 'divisions' in a circle" notion doesn't really account for dialog in TOS with bearings and headings in the 800s and 900s.

But it's possible that if Schnaubelt's ship names and ship designs from his Technical Manual (like the Destroyer Class U.S.S Azreal NCC-517) are being adopted for the production, it's possible that his bearing and heading methodology is also being adopted as well. I know the old Technical Manual has many adherents who think that if one page of it was shown briefly on a computer monitor in The Wrath of Khan, then the whole darned book must be canon as well.

Admiral Buzzkill · July 30 2009, 02:41 PM

DS9Sega wrote:

Orson Welles understood this. When he was rerecording dialog for the sleigh ride scenes in The Magnificent Ambersons he sat the actors on the end of a board and he sat on the other end and bounced them to get the correct shake in their voices.

Sadly, when he tried this trick again near the end of his life he accidentally launched a child actor into low Earth orbit.

dayxday1000 · July 30 2009, 05:21 PM

Dennis wrote:

Sadly, when he tried this trick again near the end of his life he accidentally launched a child actor into low Earth orbit.

Dennis, you're hilarious!

Maurice · July 30 2009, 10:16 PM

Dennis wrote:

DS9Sega wrote:

Orson Welles understood this. When he was rerecording dialog for the sleigh ride scenes in The Magnificent Ambersons he sat the actors on the end of a board and he sat on the other end and bounced them to get the correct shake in their voices.

Sadly, when he tried this trick again near the end of his life he accidentally launched a child actor into low Earth orbit.

You rascal!

Kail · July 31 2009, 03:02 AM

Personaly, I want more TAS like mistakes, and some pink stuff!!

Admiral Buzzkill · July 31 2009, 03:14 AM

DS9Sega wrote:

Dennis wrote:

DS9Sega wrote:

Orson Welles understood this. When he was rerecording dialog for the sleigh ride scenes in The Magnificent Ambersons he sat the actors on the end of a board and he sat on the other end and bounced them to get the correct shake in their voices.

Sadly, when he tried this trick again near the end of his life he accidentally launched a child actor into low Earth orbit.

You rascal!

It could have been worse. I was trying to work Paul Masson in there too.

NEO f/x · July 31 2009, 02:36 PM

Kail wrote:

Personaly, I want more TAS like mistakes, and some pink stuff!!

You saw the planet Quorus 5, right...pink and purple!

Maurice · July 31 2009, 10:19 PM

I must hasten to point out that much of the "pink" people claim is in TAS is actually more of a periwinkle.

NEO f/x · August 2 2009, 08:21 PM

For those of you who can't wait, Act 2 is now on YouTube...Either watch Act 1 again and follow the link at the very end, or go straight to Act 2 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_RcvgnQ8r8

Share as you see fit...the final act will be out by the week of August 31st.

Also, if you find yourself becoming a fan, pick up some great animated stuff.

http://farragut-animated.com/store.html

Mallory · August 3 2009, 12:52 AM

Well, now I really can't wait to see what happens. August is going to be a long month.

NEO f/x · August 3 2009, 01:43 AM

Thanks Mallory,

Time for a beer yet at McMens?

Mallory · August 3 2009, 01:58 AM

We really should try and organize something here at some point. Even though I'm reluctant to drag you away from getting things finished, I realize that everyone can stand a little down time. Besides, I'd like to find out more about your company in a casual setting.

NEO f/x · August 3 2009, 02:56 AM

Sounds good...are there any Trek fan groups in this area? Maybe something could be organized in the Portland area to show this to local fans. I know Scott Cummings as well (since we are both working on Exeter), however he isn't keen on Farragut much.

Anyway, let me know your thoughts and we can try to get together...if anything, gotta get you a NEO f/x shirt

Mallory · August 3 2009, 03:23 AM

I'm thinking I might post something in the Meetups subforum in Miscellaneous. I know there's more than a few folks here in the area and I don't think we've ever tried to arrange something before. Probably won't get around to that until Tuesday though. The Dreaded Real Life is going to keep me pretty busy over the next 24 hours.

NEO f/x · August 3 2009, 02:23 PM

Let's actually wait until after the full episode is released. It will be shown at DragonCon, but I won't be going this year...sometime in September might be a good time to show it.

Also, for those that are interested, the episode is now downloadable at http://farragut-animated.com/episode.html

July 30 2009, 03:01 AM	#181
GSchnitzer Co-Executive Producer Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA, Terra	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions For what it's worth, Franz Joseph Schnaubelt's Star Fleet Technical Manual discusses bearings and headings and has a system that instead of having 360 degrees in a circle has 400 "divisions." (See Technical Order TO:02:06:10.) It also has "centidivisions" and "millidivisions" instead of minutes and seconds. So at least the old Technical Manual would seem to contemplate a heading of something like "375 mark 382." (Schnaubelt uses a small superscript "D" instead of the regular degree symbol of a little superscript circle.) Of course even this "400 'divisions' in a circle" notion doesn't really account for dialog in TOS with bearings and headings in the 800s and 900s. But it's possible that if Schnaubelt's ship names and ship designs from his Technical Manual (like the Destroyer Class U.S.S Azreal NCC-517) are being adopted for the production, it's possible that his bearing and heading methodology is also being adopted as well. I know the old Technical Manual has many adherents who think that if one page of it was shown briefly on a computer monitor in The Wrath of Khan, then the whole darned book must be canon as well. __________________ Greg Schnitzer Co-Executive Producer Star Trek Phase II http://www.startrekphase2.com http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3348883/ Last edited by GSchnitzer; July 30 2009 at 02:22 PM.

July 31 2009, 03:02 AM	#185
Kail Commodore Location: Ga.	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions Personaly, I want more TAS like mistakes, and some pink stuff!! __________________ Star Trek: The Animated Series http://startrekanimated.com I'm very selective about the reality I accept.

July 31 2009, 10:19 PM	#188
Maurice Rear Admiral Location: Maurice in San Francisco	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions I must hasten to point out that much of the "pink" people claim is in TAS is actually more of a periwinkle. __________________ * * * "Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." —Rod Serling, 1970"

August 2 2009, 08:21 PM	#189
NEO f/x Lieutenant Commander Location: Portland, OR	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions For those of you who can't wait, Act 2 is now on YouTube...Either watch Act 1 again and follow the link at the very end, or go straight to Act 2 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_RcvgnQ8r8 Share as you see fit...the final act will be out by the week of August 31st. Also, if you find yourself becoming a fan, pick up some great animated stuff. http://farragut-animated.com/store.html __________________ Michael-NEO f/x http://www.neo-fx.com

August 3 2009, 12:52 AM	#190
Mallory Moderator Location: Oregon, USA	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions Well, now I really can't wait to see what happens. August is going to be a long month. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin You can't hide from Mallory, he's, like, all-seeing and all-knowing, which is also really creepy. - Goji

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August 3 2009, 01:43 AM	#191
NEO f/x Lieutenant Commander Location: Portland, OR	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions Thanks Mallory, Time for a beer yet at McMens? __________________ Michael-NEO f/x http://www.neo-fx.com

August 3 2009, 01:58 AM	#192
Mallory Moderator Location: Oregon, USA	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions We really should try and organize something here at some point. Even though I'm reluctant to drag you away from getting things finished, I realize that everyone can stand a little down time. Besides, I'd like to find out more about your company in a casual setting. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin You can't hide from Mallory, he's, like, all-seeing and all-knowing, which is also really creepy. - Goji

August 3 2009, 02:56 AM	#193
NEO f/x Lieutenant Commander Location: Portland, OR	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions Sounds good...are there any Trek fan groups in this area? Maybe something could be organized in the Portland area to show this to local fans. I know Scott Cummings as well (since we are both working on Exeter), however he isn't keen on Farragut much. Anyway, let me know your thoughts and we can try to get together...if anything, gotta get you a NEO f/x shirt __________________ Michael-NEO f/x http://www.neo-fx.com

August 3 2009, 03:23 AM	#194
Mallory Moderator Location: Oregon, USA	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions I'm thinking I might post something in the Meetups subforum in Miscellaneous. I know there's more than a few folks here in the area and I don't think we've ever tried to arrange something before. Probably won't get around to that until Tuesday though. The Dreaded Real Life is going to keep me pretty busy over the next 24 hours. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin You can't hide from Mallory, he's, like, all-seeing and all-knowing, which is also really creepy. - Goji

August 3 2009, 02:23 PM	#195
NEO f/x Lieutenant Commander Location: Portland, OR	Re: Starship Farragut: The Animated Episodes Questions Let's actually wait until after the full episode is released. It will be shown at DragonCon, but I won't be going this year...sometime in September might be a good time to show it. Also, for those that are interested, the episode is now downloadable at http://farragut-animated.com/episode.html __________________ Michael-NEO f/x http://www.neo-fx.com